Tour de France 2019 **SPOILERS**

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Adam4868

Guru
Yes good point. According to the link below you are correct but also £200k for being second the yellow jersey competition and £100k for being third so the points jersey at £25k is certainly not valued in the same way.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/...w-much-money-riders-win-tour-de-france-254417
Outside of the armchair fans of cycling who knows of anything else other than the winner ?
Finishing 17th on the tour will earn you 1300 Euros or 37.4 cents per kilometer.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
I think the combination jersey calculation was actually quite simple - something like add up ranking position in each of the three main competition and the jersey goes to the rider with the lowest number. But the method probably changed every year.
If that's the case, for this year, add up the GC, Points and climber rankings (and disqualify any riders who did not score in both points and climbing) ...

1 EGAN BERNAL TEAM INEOS 22 (1,19,2)
2 GERAINT THOMAS TEAM INEOS 27 (2,12,13)
3 JULIAN ALAPHILIPPE DECEUNINCK - QUICK - STEP 29 (5,10,14)
4 NAIRO QUINTANA MOVISTAR TEAM 43 (8,28,7)
5 EMANUEL BUCHMANN BORA - HANSGROHE 44 (4,29,11)
6 STEVEN KRUIJSWIJK TEAM JUMBO - VISMA 45 (3,33,9)
7 MIKEL LANDA MEANA MOVISTAR TEAM 47 (6,31,10)
8 XANDRO MEURISSE WANTY - GOBERT CYCLING TEAM 66 (21,26,19)
9 RIGOBERTO URAN EF EDUCATION FIRST 69 (7,38,24)
9 VINCENZO NIBALI BAHRAIN - MERIDA 69 (39,25,5)

Which quite pleases me because WGG get a top 10 finisher. I just need to finesse the calculations a bit to make it even more Wanty-friendly. Now, if we rank it on the riders' worst ranking - to get the most consistent rider rather than riders who do really well in one comp and very badly in another then the top 10 are the same individuals, but Meurisse, with a worst ranking of 26 moves up to 4th. Bernal (19) drops to 3rd, Thomas (13) wins, Alaphilppe (14) second. Quintana (28) is pushed down to 5th by Meurisse.
 
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Aravis

Putrid Donut
Location
Gloucester
If that's the case, for this year, add up the GC, Points and climber rankings (and disqualify any riders who did not score in both points and climbing) ...

1 EGAN BERNAL TEAM INEOS 22 (1,19,2)
2 GERAINT THOMAS TEAM INEOS 27 (2,12,13)
3 JULIAN ALAPHILIPPE DECEUNINCK - QUICK - STEP 29 (5,10,14)
4 NAIRO QUINTANA MOVISTAR TEAM 43 (8,28,7)
5 EMANUEL BUCHMANN BORA - HANSGROHE 44 (4,29,11)
6 STEVEN KRUIJSWIJK TEAM JUMBO - VISMA 45 (3,33,9)
7 MIKEL LANDA MEANA MOVISTAR TEAM 47 (6,31,10)
8 XANDRO MEURISSE WANTY - GOBERT CYCLING TEAM 66 (21,26,19)
9 RIGOBERTO URAN EF EDUCATION FIRST 69 (7,38,24)
9 VINCENZO NIBALI BAHRAIN - MERIDA 69 (39,25,5)

Which quite pleases me because WGG get a top 10 finisher. I just need to finesse the calculations a bit to make it even more Wanty-friendly. Now, if we rank it on the riders' worst ranking - to get the most consistent rider rather than riders who do really well in one comp and very badly in another then the top 10 are the same individuals, but Meurisse, with a worst ranking of 26 moves up to 4th. Bernal (19) drops to 3rd, Thomas (13) wins, Alaphilppe (14) second. Quintana (28) is pushed down to 5th by Meurisse.
Great stuff.

A little more light reading shows that the first separate points competition in 1953 was worked out on a the simplest possible basis, which we can certainly replicate. Finishing positions on each stage were added up, the title going to the rider with the lowest total. Who the winner might me I have absolutely no idea, but it could well be a surprise.

I remember also there used to be a team competition based on points as well as the one based on time. Green caps and yellow caps.

As for my new all-time favourite rider, I find that in 1981 he was also the new French national champion, which is mildly disappointing because it means his popularity may have been due in part to racing prowess as well as being an all-round good guy. There's evidence of the latter in this photograph, lending a helping hand to a teammate in distress, a very familiar face:

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https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/tag/alastair-hamilton/
 

brommers

Years beyond my wisdom
Location
Clacton-on-Sea
If that's the case, for this year, add up the GC, Points and climber rankings (and disqualify any riders who did not score in both points and climbing) ...

1 EGAN BERNAL TEAM INEOS 22 (1,19,2)
2 GERAINT THOMAS TEAM INEOS 27 (2,12,13)
3 JULIAN ALAPHILIPPE DECEUNINCK - QUICK - STEP 29 (5,10,14)
4 NAIRO QUINTANA MOVISTAR TEAM 43 (8,28,7)
5 EMANUEL BUCHMANN BORA - HANSGROHE 44 (4,29,11)
6 STEVEN KRUIJSWIJK TEAM JUMBO - VISMA 45 (3,33,9)
7 MIKEL LANDA MEANA MOVISTAR TEAM 47 (6,31,10)
8 XANDRO MEURISSE WANTY - GOBERT CYCLING TEAM 66 (21,26,19)
9 RIGOBERTO URAN EF EDUCATION FIRST 69 (7,38,24)
9 VINCENZO NIBALI BAHRAIN - MERIDA 69 (39,25,5)

Which quite pleases me because WGG get a top 10 finisher. I just need to finesse the calculations a bit to make it even more Wanty-friendly. Now, if we rank it on the riders' worst ranking - to get the most consistent rider rather than riders who do really well in one comp and very badly in another then the top 10 are the same individuals, but Meurisse, with a worst ranking of 26 moves up to 4th. Bernal (19) drops to 3rd, Thomas (13) wins, Alaphilppe (14) second. Quintana (28) is pushed down to 5th by Meurisse.

Don't they do something like this in the Vuelta?
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
A little more light reading shows that the first separate points competition in 1953 was worked out on a the simplest possible basis, which we can certainly replicate. Finishing positions on each stage were added up, the title going to the rider with the lowest total. Who the winner might me I have absolutely no idea, but it could well be a surprise.

What an excellent idea. Not only does it wangle Alaphilippe the win that we all crave, but it also gets two Wanty Groupe Gobert riders in the top 10. (well almost, Meurisse is tied in 10th place)

1 JULIAN ALAPHILIPPE DECEUNINCK - QUICK - STEP 388 (21,1,56,10,6,22,3,35,11,17,31,1,2,11,20,34,14,26,67)
2 EGAN BERNAL TEAM INEOS 449 (81,12,23,45,12,24,9,48,14,13,28,22,5,5,28,39,8,4,29)
3 GERAINT THOMAS TEAM INEOS 463 (111,13,54,24,4,25,10,32,12,23,27,2,8,7,25,38,13,5,30)
4 STEVEN KRUIJSWIJK TEAM JUMBO - VISMA 544 (56,17,42,34,20,58,23,58,18,19,50,6,3,8,27,51,10,8,36)
5 NAIRO QUINTANA MOVISTAR TEAM 587 (53,35,26,51,7,21,13,53,21,22,44,28,17,19,71,57,1,10,38)
6 GUILLAUME MARTIN WANTY - GOBERT CYCLING TEAM 643 (20,15,20,14,24,54,34,34,62,27,71,53,22,15,22,75,20,39,22)
7 RIGOBERTO URAN EF EDUCATION FIRST 650 (82,21,27,61,15,41,14,46,48,25,69,4,7,20,35,74,15,6,40)
8 WARREN BARGUIL TEAM ARKEA - SAMSIC 654 (101,33,61,19,21,36,17,43,26,10,56,61,9,13,18,60,18,11,41)
9 EMANUEL BUCHMANN BORA - HANSGROHE 663 (173,28,51,35,8,51,18,24,22,35,45,15,4,4,30,55,11,7,47)
10 ALEJANDRO VALVERDE MOVISTAR TEAM 669 (67,30,73,56,29,64,31,61,27,47,36,14,12,9,32,43,19,2,17)
10 XANDRO MEURISSE WANTY - GOBERT CYCLING TEAM 669 (26,8,84,11,3,62,7,22,46,57,34,40,56,22,31,20,39,67,34)

As an aside, this goes some way to explain why I'm such a fan of WGG. Since they first showed up in the TdF about 3 or 4 years ago they have always been visible, always busy. They were busting a gut for Pasqualon on the Champs Elysees yesterday even though they knew they really weren't in with a chance (I think he came in 16th). (And they just won the first two stages and currently hold the lead in the Tour of Walonie).
 
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I didn't know you were a fan of WGG, Dogtrousers, I don't think you've mentioned it before.
 

brommers

Years beyond my wisdom
Location
Clacton-on-Sea
Vuelta

"Some stage races award a white jersey for a different classification than youth. The foremost of these is probably the Vuelta a España, where it recognizes the leader in the Combination classification. In this classification, ranks in the General, Points, and Mountains classifications are added, and whoever has the lowest cumulative total is awarded the white jersey. It is a relatively new award, having existed only since the 2003 edition of the race.[1] In 1941, the Vuelta a España white jersey was for the leader and overall winner of the General classification"
Wikipedia
 

Foghat

Freight-train-groove-rider
For anyone doubting the landslide situation on the Cormet de Roselend, I took the images below today. The road is clear to the top now, but there were several locations where mudslides had obviously been cleared. Descending is a bit nerve-wracking at the moment, principally in the shaded areas under trees, as the possibility of encountering hard-to-see rogue rocks is fairly high, and hitting one of those ain't gonna be pretty. As ever, 100% concentration required.

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And this has appeared since last week, and is currently blocking the back road into Bourg St Maurice, necessitating a 70m climb to navigate around it (there's a bridge buried under there somewhere, if it hasn't been washed away):

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