Which is 'greener'? Petrol or diesel?

[mybike]

And as to global warming, well the goverment seems to want the UK to have world heritage CO2 status. Higher CO2 levels are to be encouraged in Blighty!

Helps the green stuff to grow.

 

[SD1]

Have you considered Electric? - or hybred(as in electric/petrol - not the bike)
At present more expensive buy but running costs are negligible.

As long as you ignore the subsidies;

• 35% off the cost of a car, up to a maximum of £5,000
• 20% off the cost of a van, up to a maximum of £8,000

And the subsidies in lower tax's on electricity than petrol/diesal.
Where does the electric come from .....power stations down power lines which lose electricity in transmission.
The batteries also have very short life, the replacement costs may even outweigh the subsidies.
Junk environmentalism

 

[SD1]

Agri vehicles can use it on road for transiting between farm and field i believe. . i might be wrong tho

They can use it anywhere they want but as the amount they use would probably mean that driving Norfolk to London would be cheaper in car ....a lot cheaper.

 

[SD1]

I am sticking to the cheapest fuel of all. I reckon fish, chips and peas is equal to 127.2 miles on a touring bike with 15 kilos of luggage.

 

[SD1]

I would say petrol because of the particulates in the diesel.

Do particulates cause global warming?

 

[Licramite]

only particular particulates

 

[SD1]

only particular particulates

Go on?

 

[KneesUp]

Do particulates cause global warming?

I don't believe so, but they are damaging to the environment - global warming isn't the only angle.

 

[mybike]

I don't believe so, but they are damaging to the environment - global warming isn't the only angle.

They do damage to lungs, definitely. Unlike carbon dioxide which is necessary for the environment.

 

[Drago]

Particulates, particularly high altitude ones, have a cooling effect. This was discovered by accident in the days after 9/11 when all civil air traffic was grounded, and a measurable temperature rise noted.

Downside is they may make your lungs hotter.

 

[SD1]

I don't believe so, but they are damaging to the environment - global warming isn't the only angle.

In what way do they damage the environment? I like that they are more efficient. Also what will the effect be of not producing diesal from oil. Will some of the oil become a waste product?

 

[SD1]

The awesome display of scientific knowledge on this thread is humbling...














This post may contain traces of sarcasm.

Are we talking down to people again?
The size of your disdain for other people and their views is quite staggering!

 

[Drago]

I wonder what formal Scientific credentials Reguhater has himself?

 

[albion]

In the VW controversy it turns out that in real use, VW do not do that bad.

The worlds worst polluter seems to be Vauxhall where they get to pollute 1000% of the maximum allowed emissions. (Vectra)
From what I gather, at low speed the pollutant is captured but when speed is obtained, rather than correctly burning the pollutant, you get mega high exhaust pollutant output.

http://www.driving.co.uk/news/some-vauxhall-diesel-cars-among-uks-worst-polluters/

NOx went up 50% for Corsa and 100% for Astra compared to older Astras and Corsas! So VW has become a bit of a convenient fall guy for a massive con.

 

[ufkacbln]

I would check out which one's my bikes fit in.

Are cyclists the tightest breed going, what do they do with all their disposable income.

Cyclists have no disposable income...n+1