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My KMC 10 sp chain I put on in July has done 1,800 miles without out a hitch in all weathers.
My KMC 10 sp chain I put on in July has done 1,800 miles without out a hitch in all weathers.
Looking at a new bike that has Shimano 105 11 speed fitted.
Another dealer I spoke to advised against them for a number of reasons e.g. replacement part costs (I've never had a broken chain so not expecting one any time soon )
Just wondering if anyone has first hand advice.
Not really............my OP was that the bike I am looking at has 11 speed and I want to know if anyone has good/bad experience with it.
I've never known any difference in chain life anytime an extra sprocket has been added, I think that's largely a myth. And if a chain snaps something was wrong with it, it's nothing to do with how narrow it is..
Fair comment - but as I ride a recumbent trike, even Norfolk Hills feel like mountains.Try living somewhere a bit lumpier and the advantage of lots of gears would soon become apparent!
I've had every indexed system from seven to ten and if anything fine tuning the gears has become easier and more precise. Don't forget that as more clicks are added the engineering quality has to improve in tandem to cope. I read somewhere years ago (Round the time ten speed came out) that Shimano's R&D had an experimental system running 15 cogs on a mountain bike.As more sprockets are squeezed in, there is the added disadvantage of trying to fine tune the gears.
From my point of view, it is more about smaller steps between sprockets.The extra sprocket will not make a significant difference to hill climbing. Mountain bikes manage quite adequately with 10 or even 9.
Not all the gears on a triple are useable either.....with a double chainset the crossover of useful/useable sprockets when switching rings tends to be wider. There's no 'right' answer to this.The other factor of course, is the increased move back to compact chainsets with a double on the front rather than a triple. Consequently at best an 11 speed may have 22 gears (not all useable) where as a triple with 10 could boast 30 possible gears.
True, though not all gears on a triple are useable.The other factor of course, is the increased move back to compact chainsets with a double on the front rather than a triple. Consequently at best an 11 speed may have 22 gears (not all useable) where as a triple with 10 could boast 30 possible gears.
Several things wrong, for instance his choice of an 11-23 cassette is in my opinion a wrong comparison.Interesting article:
http://thedailygrind.robdamanii.com/2012/04/09/the-irrelevance-of-the-triple/
Basically, a triple has 17 usable gears and a compact has 15 usable gears. This is based on chain position and duplicated ratios.
picky picky that was an arguement the dealer made against it................I just wanted some genuine advice re' will I have problems or not.Didn't mention the dealers saying that the parts were expensive at all then!?!
picky picky that was an arguement the dealer made against it................I just wanted some genuine advice re' will I have problems or not.