A30 - Do NOT use it!

Discussion in 'Lands End to John O'Groats (LEJOG)' started by Brains, 3 Jul 2013.

  1. amaferanga

    amaferanga Über Member

    Location:
    Bolton
    I got to Cheddar on day 1 of my LEJOG without anything particularly hilly and without using the A30. So unless you're trying to break some record there's no need to use that road. Not using the A30 didn't add many miles to my route anyway. And FWIW I did use some A-roads (a lot of A6 and A9 in particular), but an hour's research on the internet made it pretty clear the A30 would be unpleasant and that there were really pleasant alternatives.

    I'd not cycle on the M1 (even if it was legal) so I wouldn't cycle on the A30(M).
     
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  2. amaferanga

    amaferanga Über Member

    Location:
    Bolton
    Good for you. Most people don't enjoy fast, busy dual carriageways though and whatever you say, that's exactly what it is. Why exactly would you not consider any alternative - can't you do hills?
     
  3. dellzeqq

    dellzeqq pre-talced and mighty

    Location:
    SW2
    because it takes too long. There are plenty of lovely roads on the way to John O'Groats that afford the LEJoGer unbounded pleasure - I'd always take the 'old A9' in preference to the 'new A9', and if I did another LEJoG I'd go east of the Pennines and up the A68, but the A30 gives you an easy fast start and the feeling that you're getting somewhere.
     
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  4. mr_hippo

    mr_hippo Living Legend & Old Fart

    It sounds as if the OP is suffering from lack of experience, confidence or competence so maybe he should consider getting some pink tassels for his handlebars and only riding around his local duck pond!
    There are many things to consider on a ride - including time of day, even the day itself relative speed of traffic, road surface, etc. and you should make changes and adapt your technique
    We have no motorways here but a network of National Highways, the 'hard shoulder' is for bicycles and motorbikes. In urban areas, the hard shoulder is replaced by a frontage road for local traffic. and there is a physical barrier between the two. Vehicles are allowed to contraflow in the cycle/motorcycle lane!
    A typical scene on the bypass is:- being passed by a convoy of about 6 drawbar trailers, feet away and exceeding the speed limit; bearing down on me are a few motorbikes and a pickup truck, behind me are more motorbikes! Tradition dictates that contraflow traffic should pass me on my left but that forces me towards the carriage so what should I do?
     
  5. What an incredibly tedious thread to wade through.

    I was interested to hear the views of those who, like DZ, myself and numerous others, have actually ridden the A30 in varying conditions...but instead its turned into a dull dialogue between two members with equally valid and yet equally dogged viewpoints.

    Mods, I think we have reached a point on this page where neither stuart nor reg will ever see eye to eye, can we perhaps lock this off now, to save future boredom.
     
  6. lejogger

    lejogger Über Member

    Location:
    Wirral
    +1
    There was a simultaneous thread at the time that many contributed to, so this pretty much only served the purpose of allowing them to squabble away.

    My own interests in this have been reawoken however as I have ridden the A30 for day 1 and part of day 2 on my unsupported End to End in 2009 with one other companion, and while it was most definitely not pleasant, it did serve the A-B purpose.

    This year my club are attempting a supported ride and there will be in the region of 30 riders (probably in 3 groups) taking this route. Does anyone have experience of riding this road with significant numbers of other riders? Is there safety in numbers?
     
  7. My group rode as 21, albeit not in a large peleton all the time. We had no issues at all. To be honest we found that the industrial approach to the severn bridge required more attention, common sense and grouping.
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  8. In fact, if people really want to see a little of the road conditions, my vlog may help.
     
  9. Linford

    Linford Guest


    I've ridden the Cat and Fiddle on a motorbike, am still here to tell the tale..have you ?
     
  10. Smeggers II

    Smeggers II Legendary Member

    Did it Saturday on my roadie as it happens.... didn't see one motorcyclist..... which was nice.
     
  11. Linford

    Linford Guest

    Hey, if you want to get across country faster, get a car or motorbike...cycling is all about enjoying your surroundings. There is nothing to enjoy about riding up a dual carriageway with cars and lorries blasting past at high speed.
     
  12. Smeggers II

    Smeggers II Legendary Member

  13. Linford

    Linford Guest

    Who wants to ride a motorbike on slippery gritted roads with deceptively tight hairpins and no run off if you get it wrong...I certainly don't. I can't imagine many locals to the C&F would either. I think it is very over rated as a bikers road, and is only popular because of its proximity to the vast population of Manchester.
     
  14. Smeggers II

    Smeggers II Legendary Member

    Thats cos your crap.
     
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  15. Linford

    Linford Guest

    If I were inexperienced and had a bit too much front, I might make stupid boasts about what I feel is or isn't safe. I've done many thousands of miles on motorbikes on ice, in snow, on gritted roads. I'm happy to pass...as are many other experienced bikers.
     
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