Andy in Germany
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- Rottenburg am Neckar
I have only recently thought to look up what 'ICE' actually stands for. 😊🤦♂️😆
FYI, it's Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
It's InterCity Express here... Much nicer.
I have only recently thought to look up what 'ICE' actually stands for. 😊🤦♂️😆
FYI, it's Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
It's InterCity Express here... Much nicer.
It's InterCity Express here... Much nicer.
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I today discovered you can move a lit fire from one room to another using a saucepan!
I'd lit a fire in our dining room as a bit of luxury to accompany our sunday roast, then we later adjourned upstairs to the sitting room. I ummed and arr'd about lighting another but that seemed a waste since there was another still burning in an empty room and joked about brining the jot coals up. "I know you're joking but don't even think about it" then after a pause "you could use a saucepan" which I can confirm works fine.
This should not be taken as advice or good practice

I first read that as Hyena, and thought "Yea, no surprise she changed that!"
Aha... 'Pro' is not 'Pro', but 'Pro' is 'Pro Pro'!!
I am looking at switching from an old ailing Windows 10 laptop, to a decent new Macbook.
It took me ages to realise why I was getting confused by reviewers suggesting it might be better to buy the M4 Pro version rather than just the Pro M4 version...
Many of you non-Macbook users will be as confused as I was! People familiar with Apple's daft product naming will possibly be nodding in agreement.
To put you out of your misery - there is a product line named 'Pro', a processor line named 'M4', and 3 levels of processor power - '', 'Pro', and 'Max'. No I didn't forget to name the first level of processor power - Apple didn't bother!! Basically, I (and lots of other people) got confused between the MacBook Pro M4 and the MacBook Pro M4 Pro!
Naming the product line 'Pro' makes sense - it is an upmarket/more powerful range of laptops than the 'Air'. Why not call the processor levels something less confusing, like 'Base', 'Plus', and 'Max'?![]()