Another pathetic dim witted tweeting driver...

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4F

Active member of Helmets Are Sh*t Lobby
Location
Suffolk.
Are cyclists allowed on that bridge? Wikipedia doesn't say. And looking at it I guess not.

No you can't as its classed as a motorway
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
It happens, and it us usually on a road that has 40 and 50 mph limits (used to be 60 but they reduced it), and even when they get to the end of that road they usually turn the same way as we want to...... You just sit behind as there isn't really anywhere to safely pass, and it only costs a few extra minutes on your journey.
The harvest has been in full swing here in rural Staffordshire for weeks now. It is not just fleets of tractors ....but combines, artics loaded with grain, spraying rigs with many scary sharp bits sticking out, grain elevators, potato harvesters (like a mobile step-ladder) plus all manner of other agri-caboodle.
That's about the size of it, it feels continuous around us at the moment. Convoys of agricultural equipment being dragged from field to field. We've a number of stables around me too, and the horse boxes seem to travel slower than the tractors.
I was passed by one of those enormous JCB tractors the other day, he was towing a huge trailer too. He beeped at me for about 30 seconds or more as he was approaching then as he was passing his mate, who was in the cab with him gesticulated wildly to the cycle path, I was doing around 27mph at the time on a nice road with plenty of room to overtake. I'm sure the Irony of a tractor driver getting irate at another road user for "holding him up" would have been lost on him, so I set a new record for my longest continuous one finger salute.
 
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DaveReading

Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
Location
Reading, obvs
Her Twitter account is protected, but it does say she's 17.
If she thinks the bikes are holding her up she needs to get her eyesight checked.

But then again, she's only had a full driving licence for three months, as she helpfully informs the world (with a photo of her pass certificate) on another social networking site: http://ink361.com/app/users/ig-30022320/photos
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
What if it was several tractors? That happens sometimes, and then car drivers don't see it as such a blockage! I've been stuck behind one for several miles on my commute before now.
Tractor drivers who don't pull over and let a queue of traffic pass them are equally ignorant as cyclists who ride two abreast
-- note I am not referring to a group ride where there is a rationale for riding two abreast, I am talking about just two cyclists
 

Drago

Legendary Member
But if she used a camera (not a phone) then an offence has not neccessarily been committed. The law makes no sense in this area.

Who said the law made sense? And the odds of he having used a camera and then downloaded the pic at work and slapped it on to Twatter is about as likely as Boris Johnson revealing himself the be Alex Salmond in drag.
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
Tractor drivers who don't pull over and let a queue of traffic pass them are equally ignorant as cyclists who ride two abreast
-- note I am not referring to a group ride where there is a rationale for riding two abreast, I am talking about just two cyclists
If the overtake is performed correctly then it makes no difference if there are two cyclists side by side or just a solo, the amount of space which should be left is the same.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
If the overtake is performed correctly then it makes no difference if there are two cyclists side by side or just a solo, the amount of space which should be left is the same.
Exactly. It works that way because the nearside rider is closer to the kerb than a solo rider would (should) be, with the offside rider slightly wider than a "normal" primary.

If you can't pass the pair safely, you probably couldn't have passed a single rider safely either.
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
If the overtake is performed correctly then it makes no difference if there are two cyclists side by side or just a solo, the amount of space which should be left is the same.

The reality is that if someone is cycling single file, a car can pass and there's still room for another car coming the other way. That isn't the case riding two abreast. One can bang on about "correct" overtaking as much as one likes but that's the reality and is a major cause of friction between cyclists and other road users
 

winjim

Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
Who said the law made sense? And the odds of he having used a camera and then downloaded the pic at work and slapped it on to Twatter is about as likely as Boris Johnson revealing himself the be Alex Salmond in drag.
I agree, but without the metadata we can't be sure. And as far as I'm concerned a law that makes no sense can be ignored. BS lights and pedal reflectors anyone?
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
Exactly. It works that way because the nearside rider is closer to the kerb than a solo rider would (should) be, with the offside rider slightly wider than a "normal" primary.

If you can't pass the pair safely, you probably couldn't have passed a single rider safely either.
Precisely, it's also worth pointing out that riders two abreast are less long than two riders single file, so a correctly executed overtake should take less time, therefore any vehicles wishing to overtake are in theory "held up" for less time.
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Exactly. It works that way because the nearside rider is closer to the kerb than a solo rider would (should) be, with the offside rider slightly wider than a "normal" primary.

If you can't pass the pair safely, you probably couldn't have passed a single rider safely either.

That is not my experience of cyclists riding two abreast in terms or road position. First cyclist adopts "normal" position, second cyclist is therefore much further out.
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
The reality is that if someone is cycling single file, a car can pass and there's still room for another car coming the other way. That isn't the case riding two abreast. One can bang on about "correct" overtaking as much as one likes but that's the reality and is a major cause of friction between cyclists and other road users
You're not serious about this are you?
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I agree, but without the metadata we can't be sure. And as far as I'm concerned a law that makes no sense can be ignored. BS lights and pedal reflectors anyone?

You'd be happy to ignore mobile phone driving laws don't because you feel they don't make sense?
 
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