Applying tomato feed when planting a rose.....question

[Dave7]

I know there is a gardening section but I am sure its a basic question to many (not me as I know virtually nowt about it).
I bought a climing rose yesterday (from Bents) and as as I have no chicken pellet type fertilizer I was going to get some.......but the assistant told me "you are better of using liquid tomato feed".
My head was already spinning from trying to decide which rose etc so I failed to ask the obvious question.
So..........
Do I simply plant the rose then pour some feed around it ?
Should I dilute it ?
How much should I apply ?
I could read the label but I am sure the info will be tomato specific.
Thanks
PS.....any other advice gladly accepted.h

 

[TheDoctor]

Personally, I'd read the 'Tomato' instructions and then follow them.
I have successfully killed many plants over the years...

 

[Heltor Chasca]

Tomato feed is just a feed high in potassium to promote flowering and in turn fruit.

Using it now on a rose will be a waste of time and money unless it is not long off flowering. It just leaches away into the soil. You would be better off with some good old fashioned, nitrogenous muck so the rose can put its feet down properly.

Use as tomato feed every couple of weeks during flowering season. Comfrey feed even better/cheaper.

 

[Dave7]

Thanks
When you say
"good old fashioned, nitrogenous muck so the rose can put its feet down"

Can you give me a for instance ?

 

[Cycleops]

Throw the tomato feed away. Swallow your pride, grab a bucket and spade and go somewhere they ride horses and collect the left overs. Take them home dig them into soil around the roses. Watch the roses flourish.

 

[Heltor Chasca]

Chicken based garden compost is good.

But from your local garden centre: Farmyard muck or Stable compost will do. It’s all marketing. ‘Rooster Mix’ (dried chicken manure) added to compost is good too. Too hot (strong) on its own.

Nitrogen aids root growth. (Putting feet down)

 

[Heltor Chasca]

Throw the tomato feed away. Swallow your pride, grab a bucket and spade and go somewhere they ride horses and collect the left overs. Take them home dig them into soil around the roses. Watch the roses flourish.

Yes this. BUT old horse manure. 1 year plus although half this time in Africa. Fresh stuff is not good.

 

[Dave7]

Throw the tomato feed away. Swallow your pride, grab a bucket and spade and go somewhere they ride horses and collect the left overs. Take them home dig them into soil around the roses. Watch the roses flourish.

I think I will stick to shop bought sh*t thanks

 

[wormo]

Dave7 where abouts in Warrington do you live? Plenty of stables about where you can get a bag of well rotted manure for free.

 

[Dave7]

Chicken based garden compost is good.

Thanks. I used that on 2 roses I planted last August and they are doing ok. It was just listening to the advisor at the centre.

 

[alicat]

They do sell shop-bought sh*t in garden centres. I bought some to put round the base of a tree.

 

[tom73]

Like @Heltor Chasca says using it now is a waste of time. Good bit of well rotted FYM or good handful of chicken pellets is your best bet to get things off to a good start. A nice bit of liquid seaweed feed will not do any harm either great stuff for all round plant health and good for root growth too.

 

[Dave7]

Like @Heltor Chasca says using it now is a waste of time. Good bit of well rotted FYM or good handful of chicken pellets is your best bet to get things off to a good start. A nice bit of liquid seaweed feed will not do any harm either great stuff for all round plant health and good for root growth too.

Thanks.
I will buy some chicken pellets tomorrow for planting and get some tomato feed for later on.
Thanks to all for the advice.

 

[classic33]

I think I will stick to shop bought sh*t thanks

Let us know how you go on asking if tthey sell it.

 

[Dave7]

Let us know how you go on asking if tthey sell it.

Brings back to mind one time I was working in the north east and staying the night in a very classy private hotel. Went for a stroll on the beach and there was dog muck everywhere.
Back at the bar I was talking to an equally classy lady in a fur coat.....I mentioned that problem. In came the manager who asked what we were talking about.
The posh lady in the fur coat very loudly said........."he is talking about all the dog sh*t on the beach".