Are you going vegan?

[BoldonLad]

Not quite, we’re going dry and meat-free.

What! just for January?, in which case, it will soon be over. Chin up.

 

[AndyRM]

https://www.greggs.co.uk/vsb-locator?sf227337306=1

 

[PK99]

Cheers PK.

I think you may have found quite an obscure issue there...

That was just illustrative.
More generally:
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/things-vegans-dont-eat

and:
https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/01/vegan-foods-vegans-dont-eat-11985353/

the most obvious exclusions are: Meat (beef, lamb, pork etc.) Poultry Fish and seafood Cheese Eggs Yoghurt Butter Cream Milk
However, being vegan can sometimes mean having to be extra cautious, as there are some less-obvious exclusions to the diet. These include:

• Some beer and wine – check to see if egg white, gelatin or casein has been used in the brewing process.
• Honey – this is a contentious one.
• Some vegans will eat honey, but others don’t because when humans give the bees a sugar substance to replace the honey taken, it lacks essential nutrients they need and can affect their lifespan.
• Sweets – non-vegan ingredients in sweets can include gelatin, shellac or a food dye called carmine which is made from cochineal insects.
• Chips – some are fried in animal fat.
• Pesto – many store-bought pestos contain Parmesan cheese.
• Roasted peanuts – can often include gelatin to help the spices stick together.
• Fresh pasta – often made with eggs.
• Natural flavourings – check the ingredients for additives such as E120, E322, E422, E471, E542, E631, E901 and E904 as these are animal-based.
• And if you see castoreum on an ingredients list, vegans will want to avoid it as that’s made from the secretions of a beavers anal scent gland. Yum.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/01/vegan-foods-vegans-dont-eat-11985353/?ito=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

When entertaining at home I have quite happily catered for:
Vegetarian - by choice and Hindu/Bramin
Halal
Diabetic
Gluten Free
Shell fish allergy

diets of my friends/guests or my kids friends.

Vegan - I'm sorry, but if you come, you will have to cope with the drinks I choose to provide and the Vegetarian option.

 

[AndyRM]

Cooking vegan really isn't as hard as those articles would have you believe.

Yes, some vegans go to wild extremes, but they are very much in a minority. It seems that most mainstream discussion of veganism ranges from "look at these weirdos" to "what do they eat?" via "why don't they shut up about it?"

It's pretty boring, really, and I'm not vegan.

 

[MichaelW2]

I has a vegan sausage roll in Gregg s on Saturday. Does that count?

I can see in the next 20-30 years that mass production of meat scales right down and meat becomes a luxuy product. The 99% may have to make do with reconstituted jelly fish and petri dish protein for our fix.

 

[mudsticks]

Cooking vegans really isn't as hard as those articles would have you believe.

Yes, some go to wild extremes, but they are very much in a minority. It seems that most mainstream discussion of veganism ranges from "look at these weirdos" to "what do they eat?" via "why don't they shut up about it?"

It's pretty boring, really, and I'm not vegan.

Hur de hur...

 

[Fab Foodie]

What! just for January?, in which case, it will soon be over. Chin up.

...we might extend into February....

 

[mudsticks]

Cooking vegan really isn't as hard as those articles would have you believe.

Yes, some vegans go to wild extremes, but they are very much in a minority. It seems that most mainstream discussion of veganism ranges from "look at these weirdos" to "what do they eat?" via "why don't they shut up about it?"

It's pretty boring, really, and I'm not vegan.

There's usually at least one vegan residing, here at the farm, at any one time.

We often take it in turns to cook communally, no one goes hungry ever.

Having said that, there's many a "Ostensibly vegan, but actually eating these eggs, from these chickens" before too long.

If you make a big ol fuss about stuff, then more fuss will generally ensue.

But reasonably intelligent ppl can have reasoned conversations about these things, in the real world..

See previous posts (not the one with the bear )

 

[flake99please]

I doubt I would manage a day without any animal products, let alone a month through ‘Veganuary’.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

That was just illustrative.
More generally:
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/things-vegans-dont-eat

and:
https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/01/vegan-foods-vegans-dont-eat-11985353/

the most obvious exclusions are: Meat (beef, lamb, pork etc.) Poultry Fish and seafood Cheese Eggs Yoghurt Butter Cream Milk
However, being vegan can sometimes mean having to be extra cautious, as there are some less-obvious exclusions to the diet. These include:

• Some beer and wine – check to see if egg white, gelatin or casein has been used in the brewing process.
• Honey – this is a contentious one.
• Some vegans will eat honey, but others don’t because when humans give the bees a sugar substance to replace the honey taken, it lacks essential nutrients they need and can affect their lifespan.
• Sweets – non-vegan ingredients in sweets can include gelatin, shellac or a food dye called carmine which is made from cochineal insects.
• Chips – some are fried in animal fat.
• Pesto – many store-bought pestos contain Parmesan cheese.
• Roasted peanuts – can often include gelatin to help the spices stick together.
• Fresh pasta – often made with eggs.
• Natural flavourings – check the ingredients for additives such as E120, E322, E422, E471, E542, E631, E901 and E904 as these are animal-based.
• And if you see castoreum on an ingredients list, vegans will want to avoid it as that’s made from the secretions of a beavers anal scent gland. Yum.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/01/vegan-foods-vegans-dont-eat-11985353/?ito=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

When entertaining at home I have quite happily catered for:
Vegetarian - by choice and Hindu/Bramin
Halal
Diabetic
Gluten Free
Shell fish allergy

diets of my friends/guests or my kids friends.

Vegan - I'm sorry, but if you come, you will have to cope with the drinks I choose to provide and the Vegetarian option.

Thanks.

As someone who is personally entirely omnivorous but has to routinely cater for a family which features vegans, gluten-free and some other food allergies too, the only thing which bugs me is people who not only have these issues but are fussy on top: "I don't like cashews!"; "yeuuch, that fish has eyes!" etc. That gets my goat.

The vegan things which bug you haven't been any problem for me.

Right, enough of this. I'm off to cook onion bhajis, saag massala and tarka dahl for tea. Might do some naans too.

Dire, vegan food.

 

[Slick]

This is not a particular well balanced documentary, it's a bit evangelical, it's easy to pick holes in BUT, I absolutely agree it's worth watching, the info about the impact of meat-eating is particularly eye-opening for many. The fact is that there are few (if any) downsides to heading towards a low meat/no meat diet.

Yeah definitely, especially at the start, although it was eye opening to me. If half the claims were true I'd be willing to give it a try.

 

[PK99]

Right, enough of this. I'm off to cook onion bhajis, saag massala and tarka dahl for tea. Might do some naans too.

Dire, vegan food.

A typical evening meal in our omnivorous house too! I also do a mean Masala Dosa and Sambhar! Meera Sodha is my Guru. But I like my Dosa cooked in Ghee.

Now interestingly, the Ethical Vegan who has won the first part of his case, says that he chooses to walk rather that take the bus because the bus might kill insects is but one step from a Jain diet The Jain cuisine is completely vegetarian and also excludes underground vegetables such as potato, garlic, onion etc, to prevent injuring small insects and microorganisms; and also to prevent the entire plant getting uprooted and killed (Wiki)
Ie his ethical stance seems self inconsistent in comparison.

 

[Fab Foodie]

I doubt I would manage a day without any animal products, let alone a month through ‘Veganuary’.

But why not? Maybe just try a week without meat!

 

[Fab Foodie]

Yeah definitely, especially at the start, although it was eye opening to me. If half the claims were true I'd be willing to give it a try.

Then do! That's our approach, it's an experiment, can we get used to eating differently, do we feel any benefits? I doubt we'll become veggies full time but will maybe just have better meat infrequently.

 

[Slick]

Then do! That's our approach, it's an experiment, can we get used to eating differently, do we feel any benefits? I doubt we'll become veggies full time but will maybe just have better meat infrequently.

Already am.

Pretty much the same plan as you at the moment, but I've now had a number of vegan meals, which I enjoyed but Mrs Slick is not so keen and tends to either eat nothing when I'm enjoying this new diet or makes do with a sandwich. Mrs Slick really can't afford to miss too many more meals or she will be in danger of disappearing altogether.