BBC helmet cam film to explore cyclist-motorist conflict

[Grendel]

I'm quite happy to believe that. Unfortunately that won't be the impression gained by several million people. His contribution often came over as self-satisfied and close to smirking in places.

He said on reflection he could have reacted better - I'm sure the majority will remember what they saw not what he said.

The only women in the programme was magnificent. Dave from Glasgow really good as was Simon the lawyer and his friend.

That was my thoughts as well. Some people do get nervous and appear to be inappropriately smirking when they don't mean to be though.

 

[Grendel]

Droid saying that he got the camera to "trap" bad drivers was very ill judged. But then his road positioning at times is not the best, especially when that van and trailer squeezed him.

If I recall correctly the footage showed the road lanes split just ahead for left turn and straight ahead. I assumed that he was in the left side of the right lane to go straight on?

 

[RWright]

lets not forget, this isnt about cycle campaign but the realities on the roads. this is for the general public not just for motorist or cyclist. when i watched it, i distanced myself from being a cyclist and i thought it was ok and balanced.

I felt the same way. I just finished watching it. I thought it made the cyclist and the drivers seem like good people, except for the really stupid one throwing punches and his posse. The part with the racing in the streets was over the top but I think most people watching would realize that those guys won't last very long riding like that.

I think that show had several touching parts that may put a little more humanity in the viewers and hopefully make both drivers and riders more aware of the others situations. I though Gaz and the others from here did a fine job.

 

[theclaud]

Oh dear, Oh dear

Comments from another forum below

"Watched thsi last night and wondered if the self-opinionated trouble-seeking cyclist-t

t has died in the meantime! A lot of very bad cyclists, completely ignoring the Highway Code, being dangerous to one and all, and being aggressive. Also some poor driving by some car drivers. Put these 2 things in the mix and you're going to get hurt, one way or another!

Also glad to see that the police DO do something sometimes against the Lycra Terrorists!

As for the young lady who got killed by a truck turning left, a tragedy no doubt, but she really should have known better than to try to go down the inside of a truck or bus. But also glad that her mums work has led to better safety features in the cabs of trucks for town traffic."

It looks like the program has reinforced peoples negative views of cyclists.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=204&t=1225896&mid=0&nmt=War on Britain's Roads - 9PM BBC1 Tonight

It's Pistonheads, FFS - cyclists existing reinforces their negative view of cyclists.

 

[PK99]

I bet to plod cyclists in uniform get zero harrassment from the coward drivers ...maybe I'll dress up like a cop cyclist ...joking...but something has got to be done to stop this madness and aggression displaid by drivers.

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i see a lot of horse riders out in surrey with yellow high viz, with a blue and white strip at the top and Polite notice

http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Equisafe...stcoat-Please-Slow-Down/productinfo/POLITEWC/

They seem to get alot more respect from other road users

 

[jonny jeez]

Soooooooo glad I don't commute in London......CHAOS!!!

and that is the lasting message I think it left.

a real shame.

I thought Gaz was edited in a poor light.
Cab driver who could not accept his own failure worried me.
Mags came across well
Cab driver who ended by commenting on his grandsons death was touching and surprising.
The Bexley incident with the lawyer and surveyor was shown in a good light (they were edited very positively)

But the whole programme lost its end (and eventual) message of cooperation in the midst of a bunch of irrelevant videos that simply helped to enrage and entrench each side of the viewing public.

A truly astonishing film would have "exposed" the reality that there is no such war, that cycling in cities is a joy, that thousands upon thousands of riders enjoy the experience every minute of the day without a single issue. Sometimes people loose it and when they do they are often contrite literally moments later, its fear, its adrenalin, its an unnatural state that no-one can spend their entire day living within.

shame

 

[PK99]

I did not mention "Black" or "Fat", stop being a twat, I changed it because some people seen something that wasn`t there as you did

For the sake of clarity, would you care to post here the title you did originally use?

IIRC it included the phrase "Big Mamma" : Many folks seemed to infer a racist and sexist undertone, maybe you would care to set the record straight?

 

[Grendel]

Oh right yes, I forgot that was you.

I think hitting pedestrains is the worst thing the a cyclist can do. They have no protective equipment on and often arent concentrating (like the guy with the bus).

I think in both of the cases, you were fortunate that the peds were in the wrong (yes even the woman). I dont understand how anyone could say that the woman was your fault. You may have been going a little fast, and possibly could have given a worning of your approach, but what did the woman expect? There were loads of cyclists and (from videos of that path before) it was definately a cycle path.

Just be safe and respectful out there (something I should take on myself sometimes).

Aren't cyclepaths "shared use" unless they are marked with seperate pedestrian/cycle lanes?

 

[RWright]

The lady getting knocked down by the bike did look bad. Bike was going too fast for the congestion there.

 

[grumpyoldgit]

How do you edit 'I will command the road'?(arrogant terwatt),or'There is no space to overtake,so I am not going to give you the space'?There is either space or there is not.

 

[Oldspice]

Lets not forget what an idiot & complete T0$$er you are, I did not mention any racial remarks at all, it refered to Martin Lawrence`s film Big Momma, get a life & write something constructive for a change

What happend to the person you knocked down. Did she sue you or have any medical problems brought on by you hitting her.

 

[benborp]

Part of this clip was used in the programme last night. What makes it special though is what happens after the near miss.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekSMrAL-N9E

 

[locker]

For the sake of clarity, would you care to post here the title you did originally use?

IIRC it included the phrase "Big Mamma" : Many folks seemed to infer a racist and sexist undertone, maybe you would care to set the record straight?

People with small minds lack storage space

 

[dellzeqq]

Part of this clip was used in the programme last night. What makes it special though is what happens after the near miss.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekSMrAL-N9E

I'd forgotten that, Ben. And, yes, as you say, the interesting bit is afterwards. If it had been me I'd have got him to sit down - he looked as if he might keel over

 

[dellzeqq]

People with small minds lack storage space

so what was the original title?