BBC helmet cam film to explore cyclist-motorist conflict

[Beebo]

Helmet Camera cyclists are generally bad for cycling. ......
If these cyclists truly wanted to effect change with a camera there are so many things that they could do.

I defence of Gaz, he does far more than 99% of helmet camera users for cyclist awareness and education with his silly cyclist videos.
The other Droid fella is just a bit of a knob.

 

[Leodis]

Learnt a fair bit from Gaz, mainly how to back down when approached by an angry taxi driver.

On a serious note before I started cycling a year ago I was scared stiff, hadnt been on a bike for 20 years. After wachting silly cyclist and reading best practice books I can say I have not yet been killed or knocked off, though been daft at time yes but I feel a pretty aware cyclist. (touch wood)

 

[grumpyoldgit]

I followed the link to pistonheads,apart from a few juvenile idiots,I was surprised at a reasonably balanced (I did say reasonably) veiwpoint is being taken on there.

 

[cd365]

I watched it last night with my wife, son and his girlfriend, all drivers. They were a bit shocked when they saw some of the near misses and the actual collisions. Especially when I would make comments like "that has happened to me", they could see how some of the overtakes were really close, I don't think they realised how it looks/feels to the cyclists. SO I am hoping it will make them a bit more considerate if they weren't already!

At the start I had hoped that the cyclist who come across as a bit smug wasn't Gaz, but it was. As has been said he wasn't edited in a very good light and I agree with the others who said that the program should have explained why he took some of his correct road positioning.

The copper on the bike came across badly, especially when he sided with the cab driver. He should have been told that if they cyclist can touch your cab then you are WAY TOO CLOSE.

Overall I didn't think the program was too bad.

 

[Andrew_P]

Where is @Gaz, Cabby abducted him?

 

[gaz]

How do you edit 'I will command the road'?(arrogant terwatt),or'There is no space to overtake,so I am not going to give you the space'?There is either space or there is not.

Don't take everything at face value, it's easy to cut around what I said, there would have been sentences before and after those statements which puts them into context.

 

[gaz]

Sorry,misunderstood you.
This Gaz fella,strange name for parents to give an offspring,sets out looking for trouble,& is shocked when he finds it,absolutely crapping himself when he gets the reaction that he pushes so hard for,'I have got a helmet cam',right ,so this makes him superman.He is no better,or worse,than the jerk in the silver car.

stop being such a grump old git.

 

[CopperCyclist]

The program now needs two follow ups. One completely from the side of the driver. They can highlight how 'our' red light jumping etc affects them, how we filter up the side of trucks, what they want from us (eg pay road tax) etc and how they think it'll all help.

We can then have a 'cyclists' side, where we can get across what we want I.e. the pointlessness of 'road tax' for us, the importance and reasons behind our positioning etc.

It may then all iron out!

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Don't take everything at face value, it's easy to cut around what I said, there would have been sentences before and after those statements which puts them into context.

If drivers think I'm deliberately blocking their way when I ride assertively then, so be it, I will command the road.

 

[grumpyoldgit]

Don't take everything at face value, it's easy to cut around what I said, there would have been sentences before and after those statements which puts them into context.

Were the bits with you chasing cars & antagonising drivers clever editing as well?
As I stated,you are no better,or worse,than the jerk in the silver car. You provoke violence,& get shocked & upset when someone delivers.That doesnt make the aggressor right,just human.

 

[veloevol]

"I will be honest with you I tend not to command the road" this statement could be edited to say the opposite.

 

[Dan B]

I had forgotten how awful the alley cat racing was.

Yes, bunch of pansies

 

[Andrew_P]

Quite surprised Gaz is getting the stick and not the Droid fella? (on other forums).

 

[veloevol]

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If these cyclists truly wanted to effect change with a camera there are so many things that they could do. Pick a terrible road junction on your commute, used by lots of commuters. Document it daily, produce a combination of videos, send it to the relevant agencies. Suggest changes for that section of road. Maybe it's the removal of a railing, or that a certain kerb is too high/long. Maybe an ASL needs repainting, or you've noticed that a cycle path could benefit from being a bit wider near a junction. Maybe a sign obscures a view at a certain key point.It may take 2 years to change one thing, but you could truly save a life. You could cycle through there and think 'I did this. I made this better'. That's simply one idea.

There are so many things that you guys could do.

Some of us do both and Magnatom campaigns effectively.

 

[Leodis]

Yeah that Driod has issues