Bean to cup machine questions.

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albion

Legendary Member
Location
Gateshead
The best coffee is the one you
Hard to beat a flask and sachet of Cappuccino for a view point ride stop.
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
Depends. If you open a bag and use it within a week, getting coffee ground from a roasters is a better bet - you'll get a fantastic grind that'll outperform a cheap grinder even after a week.

The type of grinder you get for £30 will be very likely be low quality and have a mechanism that will pulverise rather than grind.
My local roaster specifically disagrees with you on these two points, he says better to buy fresh roasted whole beans and then grind as you go. He also thought my "cheap" manual grinder was doing a decent job.

I wouldn't get through a bag in a week in any event. I have bought the same coffee whole and pre-ground and marginally prefer it whole bean to grind as you use it. I quite like the ritual of grind and mokka pot.

I'm defo not a fan of pods for a whole host of reasons.
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
My local roaster specifically disagrees with you on these two points, he says better to buy fresh roasted whole beans and then grind as you go. He also thought my "cheap" manual grinder was doing a decent job.
There's a tipping point, for me it's consumption in a week, if you're not going to consume a bag a week, then absolutely grind at home.
I wouldn't get through a bag in a week in any event. I have bought the same coffee whole and pre-ground and marginally prefer it whole bean to grind as you use it. I quite like the ritual of grind and mokka pot.
I use a Mokka pot at the weekend mostly, Mrs C likes to have a cup with hot milk in the morning, can't say I disagree.

Mostly I brew with a pourover or aeropress - I've got a 1zpresso hand grinder which is really good and can reliably grind small enough for espresso and is by far the most expensive coffee accessory I have. I've tried more expensive grinders and more involved brew methods but I struggle to discern much difference beyond what I have, thus I've stopped trying. A lesson learnt the hard way after spending my 20s getting ever more expensive and hard to justify hifi equipment - just to end up using headphones most of the time.

I'm defo not a fan of pods for a whole host of reasons.

Truly awful things, bad for the environment, generally poor coffee (unless getting the 3rd party pods) and the machines are of dubious quality - especially at the lower end.
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
shhshhh @si_c doesn't think you can get a burr grinder under £30 ish

You can. Clearly.

The problem is the mechanism inside doesn't give much fine control compared to better grinders and you've got to hope that the material quality is good too. I tried getting a couple of cheaper grinders like that, and they worked OK, but both of them ended up stripping the internal mechanism when meeting much resistance. Think thin steel clamp on soft aluminium shaft.
 

Bonefish Blues

Banging donk
Location
52 Festive Road
You can. Clearly.

The problem is the mechanism inside doesn't give much fine control compared to better grinders and you've got to hope that the material quality is good too. I tried getting a couple of cheaper grinders like that, and they worked OK, but both of them ended up stripping the internal mechanism when meeting much resistance. Think thin steel clamp on soft aluminium shaft.
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View: https://youtu.be/TyXzk_Q7l8A?si=7muRSF3s_DXGmFhg
 

albion

Legendary Member
Location
Gateshead
I have pods ATM but my supply isn't unending!

Will need a new method when I start eating £5 for 16!

It is a number game, pods being ideal for that infrequent drink.
Those instant sachets for an occasional on the go coffee are also great, once you find a taste suitable one.
 

Tenkaykev

Guru
Location
Poole
I fell down the James Hoffman YouTube rabbit hole a couple of years ago. Very entertaining and eye opening as to what's out there and some of the prices are astonishing.
As my wife and I both drink black coffee we don't need a milk frother gubbins, but when we got our Melitta the model with the milk attachment was on special offer so we purchased that. Reading through the manual to find the descaling procedure I discovered that there's a mechanism for altering grind fineness, and also one for changing the brew temperature. I might have a play with that as Mrs Tkk likes her coffee molten hot and I like mine cool ( I often ask for a splash of cold water in mine )
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
I have one of these, from coffee world, initially a bit fiddly getting the right grind size, but once adjusted it does a good job. I see they also now do some manual ones with ceramic burrs at a keen price
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