Beer as cycling fuel?

[IanSmithCSE]

Good morning,

	Standard beer	Light beer
Protein	1.6 grams	0.9 grams
Fat	0 grams	0 grams
Carbs	13 grams	6 grams
Niacin	9% of the Daily Value (DV)	9% of the DV

Not much protein or fat, but fair amount of carbs. Not a carb dense as a potato or pasta. Hence excess consumption leads to a beer belly

I put one pint of Bishops Finger 5.4% abv (carbs 19.8g, fat 0g, protein 1.7g, alcohol 25.3g) through my weight loss calculator which gave these results

Comments

• Don't forget the calories derived from the alcohol
• The alcohol is absorbed into the blood stream, but does not immediately supply any energy
  • As the blood alcohol is metabolised the energy it produces is used in preference to any other fuel source, the entries marked basal usage.
  • The energy cost of this metabolisation is quite high.
• Once the blood alcohol level drops to a very low value the absorption rate also decreases, this area of the calculator is very debatable because there is very little information of what happens at these low levels.
• The points in time defined as high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing could lead to conflicts with very rapidly digestible carbs, such as a Maltodextrin found in gels. The gel could pass through the digestive system without being digested at all.
• Because the calculation is done in 15 minutes chunks rather than real time some of the processes are a little bit extended.

Of course this is just my calculator and it does what ever I programmed it do!

Bye

Ian
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Day	Time	Total Body Weight (kg)	Glycogen Water Weight (g)	Glycogen Weight (g)	Glycogen Calories (kc)	Ketones (kc)	Alcohol (mg/100ml)/ (kc)	Protein (g)	Activity
1	00:00	68.750	1750	500	1875	15	0/0	49	Drink Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1)
1		68.742	1745	499	1870	15	0/0	49	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Glycogen 5kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.742	1745	499	1870	16	0/0	49	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.4kc,21.8% of capacity
1	00:15	68.742	1745	499	1870	16	0/0	49	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) body's glycogen capacity reached, only 5kc converted to glycogen
1		68.748	1750	500	1875	16	0/0	49	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) converted 6.3g of carbs to 5kc of glycogen
1		68.747	1749	500	1874	16	0/0	49	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) to glycogen required 0.5kc of glycogen
1		68.748	1749	500	1874	16	0/0	49	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) converted 4.9g of carbs to 18kc to 1.8g of fat
1		68.743	1745	498	1869	16	0/0	49	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) to fat required 4.6kc of glycogen
1		68.743	1745	498	1869	16	42/0	49	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) increased Blood alcohol by 41.9mg/100ml
1		68.735	1740	497	1864	16	42/0	48	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Glycogen 5kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.735	1740	497	1864	18	42/0	48	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.4kc,21.4% of capacity
1	00:30	68.735	1740	497	1864	18	42/0	48	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.735	1740	497	1864	18	66/0	48	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) increased Blood alcohol by 24.3mg/100ml
1		68.735	1740	497	1864	18	66/0	48	Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) all usable alcohol in the bloodstream
1		68.727	1735	496	1859	18	66/0	47	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Glycogen 5kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.727	1735	496	1859	18	66/0	47	Blood alcohol level is over the Scottish driving limit
1		68.727	1735	496	1859	19	66/0	47	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.4kc,21.4% of capacity
1	00:45	68.726	1735	496	1859	19	66/0	47	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	19	66/0	47	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Glycogen 5kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	19	66/0	47	Blood alcohol level is over the Scottish driving limit
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	20	66/0	47	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.4kc,21.4% of capacity
1	01:00	68.718	1730	494	1853	20	66/0	47	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	15	66/0	46	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Ketones 5kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	15	66/0	46	Blood alcohol level is over the Scottish driving limit
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	17	66/0	46	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.4kc,21.8% of capacity
1	01:15	68.716	1730	494	1853	17	66/0	46	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.716	1730	494	1853	17	66/0	46	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred protein processing
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	17	61/14	46	Metabolised 5.2g of blood alcohol to 14kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	17	61/11	46	Metabolise blood alcohol used 2.4kc
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	17	61/0	46	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 6kc, Alcohol 11kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	17	61/0	46	Blood alcohol level is over the Scottish driving limit
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	18	61/0	46	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.4kc,22.2% of capacity
1	01:30	68.716	1730	494	1853	18	61/0	46	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.716	1730	494	1853	18	61/0	46	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred protein processing
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	18	56/14	46	Metabolised 5.2g of blood alcohol to 14kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	18	56/11	46	Metabolise blood alcohol used 2.4kc
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	18	56/0	45	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 6kc, Alcohol 11kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	18	56/0	45	Blood alcohol level is over the Scottish driving limit
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	19	56/0	45	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.4kc,22.6% of capacity
1	01:45	68.717	1730	494	1853	19	56/0	45	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	19	56/0	45	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred protein processing
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	19	51/14	45	Metabolised 5.2g of blood alcohol to 14kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	19	51/11	45	Metabolise blood alcohol used 2.4kc
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	19	51/0	44	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 6kc, Alcohol 11kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	19	51/0	44	Blood alcohol level is over the Scottish driving limit
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	21	51/0	44	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.5kc,23.0% of capacity
1	02:00	68.717	1730	494	1853	21	51/0	44	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.717	1730	494	1853	21	51/0	44	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred protein processing
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	21	46/14	44	Metabolised 5.2g of blood alcohol to 14kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	21	46/11	44	Metabolise blood alcohol used 2.4kc
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	21	46/0	44	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 6kc, Alcohol 11kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	22	46/0	44	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.5kc,23.4% of capacity
1	02:15	68.718	1730	494	1853	22	46/0	44	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	22	46/0	44	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred protein processing
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	22	40/14	44	Metabolised 5.2g of blood alcohol to 14kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	22	40/11	44	Metabolise blood alcohol used 2.4kc
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	22	40/0	43	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 6kc, Alcohol 11kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	24	40/0	43	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.5kc,23.8% of capacity
1	02:30	68.718	1730	494	1853	24	40/0	43	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	24	40/0	43	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred protein processing
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	24	35/14	43	Metabolised 5.2g of blood alcohol to 14kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	24	35/11	43	Metabolise blood alcohol used 2.4kc
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	24	35/0	43	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 6kc, Alcohol 11kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	26	35/0	43	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.6kc,24.2% of capacity
1	02:45	68.718	1730	494	1853	26	35/0	43	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.718	1730	494	1853	26	35/0	43	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred protein processing
1		68.720	1730	494	1853	26	30/14	43	Metabolised 5.2g of blood alcohol to 14kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.720	1730	494	1853	26	30/11	43	Metabolise blood alcohol used 2.4kc
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	26	30/0	42	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 6kc, Alcohol 11kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	27	30/0	42	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.6kc,24.6% of capacity
1	03:00	68.719	1730	494	1853	27	30/0	42	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	27	30/0	42	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) high blood alcohol has deferred protein processing
1		68.720	1730	494	1853	27	25/14	42	Metabolised 5.2g of blood alcohol to 14kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.720	1730	494	1853	27	25/11	42	Metabolise blood alcohol used 2.4kc
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	27	25/0	41	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 6kc, Alcohol 11kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.719	1730	494	1853	29	25/0	41	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.6kc,25.1% of capacity
1	03:15	68.719	1730	494	1853	29	25/0	41	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) body's glycogen capacity reached, only 22kc converted to glycogen
1		68.745	1750	500	1875	29	25/0	41	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) converted 6.3g of carbs to 22kc of glycogen
1		68.743	1748	500	1873	29	25/0	41	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) to glycogen required 2.2kc of glycogen
1		68.743	1748	500	1873	29	25/0	41	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) converted 0.5g of carbs to 2kc to 0.2g of fat
1		68.743	1748	499	1873	29	25/0	41	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) to fat required 0.5kc of glycogen
1		68.743	1748	499	1873	29	25/0	43	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) absorbed 1.5g of protein
1		68.744	1748	499	1873	29	20/14	43	Metabolised 5.2g of blood alcohol to 14kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.744	1748	499	1873	29	20/11	43	Metabolise blood alcohol used 2.4kc
1		68.743	1748	499	1873	29	20/0	42	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 6kc, Alcohol 11kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.743	1748	499	1873	30	20/0	42	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.6kc,24.2% of capacity
1	03:30	68.743	1748	499	1873	30	20/0	42	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) body's glycogen capacity reached, only 2kc converted to glycogen
1		68.745	1750	500	1875	30	20/0	42	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) converted 6.3g of carbs to 2kc of glycogen
1		68.745	1750	500	1875	30	20/0	42	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) to glycogen required 0.2kc of glycogen
1		68.747	1750	500	1875	30	20/0	42	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) converted 5.7g of carbs to 21kc to 2.1g of fat
1		68.741	1745	499	1870	30	20/0	42	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) to fat required 5.4kc of glycogen
1		68.741	1745	499	1870	30	20/0	42	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) absorbed 0.2g of protein
1		68.741	1745	499	1870	30	20/0	42	Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) all usable protein extracted
1		68.742	1745	499	1870	30	15/13	42	Metabolised 4.9g of blood alcohol to 13kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.742	1745	499	1870	30	15/11	42	Metabolise blood alcohol used 2.2kc
1		68.742	1745	499	1870	30	15/0	42	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 6kc, Alcohol 11kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.742	1745	499	1870	32	15/0	42	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.5kc,23.4% of capacity
1	03:45	68.746	1749	500	1874	32	15/0	42	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) converted 0.9g of carbs to 4kc of glycogen
1		68.746	1749	500	1874	32	15/0	42	Digest Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) to glycogen required 0.4kc of glycogen
1		68.746	1749	500	1874	32	15/0	42	Beer - Bishops Finger 5.4% pint(1) all usable carbs extracted
1		68.747	1749	500	1874	32	11/10	42	Metabolised 3.7g of blood alcohol to 10kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.747	1749	500	1874	32	11/8	42	Metabolise blood alcohol used 1.7kc
1		68.746	1749	500	1874	32	11/0	41	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 9kc, Alcohol 8kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.746	1749	500	1874	33	11/0	41	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.4kc,22.6% of capacity
1	04:00	68.746	1749	500	1874	33	8/7	41	Metabolised 2.8g of blood alcohol to 7kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.746	1749	500	1874	33	8/6	41	Metabolise blood alcohol used 1.3kc
1		68.745	1749	500	1874	33	8/0	41	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 11kc, Alcohol 6kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.745	1749	500	1874	35	8/0	41	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.5kc,23.0% of capacity
1	04:15	68.745	1749	500	1874	35	6/6	41	Metabolised 2.1g of blood alcohol to 6kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.745	1749	500	1874	35	6/5	41	Metabolise blood alcohol used 0.9kc
1		68.744	1749	500	1874	34	6/0	40	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Alcohol 5kc, Ketones 1kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.744	1749	500	1874	36	6/0	40	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.5kc,23.4% of capacity
1	04:30	68.744	1749	500	1874	36	5/4	40	Metabolised 1.6g of blood alcohol to 4kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.744	1749	500	1874	36	5/3	40	Metabolise blood alcohol used 0.7kc
1		68.742	1749	500	1874	34	5/0	39	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Alcohol 3kc, Ketones 2kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.742	1749	500	1874	35	5/0	39	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.5kc,23.8% of capacity
1	04:45	68.742	1749	500	1874	35	4/3	39	Metabolised 1.2g of blood alcohol to 3kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.742	1749	500	1874	35	4/3	39	Metabolise blood alcohol used 0.5kc
1		68.740	1749	500	1874	33	4/0	39	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Alcohol 3kc, Ketones 3kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.740	1749	500	1874	34	4/0	39	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.6kc,24.2% of capacity
1	05:00	68.740	1749	500	1874	34	3/2	39	Metabolised 0.9g of blood alcohol to 2kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.740	1749	500	1874	34	3/2	39	Metabolise blood alcohol used 0.4kc
1		68.739	1749	500	1874	31	3/0	38	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Alcohol 2kc, Ketones 3kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.739	1749	500	1874	32	3/0	38	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.6kc,24.6% of capacity
1	05:15	68.738	1749	500	1874	32	2/2	38	Metabolised 0.7g of blood alcohol to 2kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.738	1749	500	1874	32	2/1	38	Metabolise blood alcohol used 0.3kc
1		68.737	1749	500	1874	29	2/0	38	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Alcohol 1kc, Ketones 4kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.737	1749	500	1874	30	2/0	38	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.6kc,25.1% of capacity
1	05:30	68.737	1749	500	1874	30	1/1	38	Metabolised 0.5g of blood alcohol to 1kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.737	1749	500	1874	30	1/1	38	Metabolise blood alcohol used 0.2kc
1		68.735	1749	500	1874	26	1/0	37	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Alcohol 1kc, Ketones 4kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.735	1749	500	1874	28	1/0	37	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.6kc,25.5% of capacity
1	05:45	68.735	1749	500	1874	28	1/1	37	Metabolised 0.4g of blood alcohol to 1kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.735	1749	500	1874	28	1/1	37	Metabolise blood alcohol used 0.2kc
1		68.733	1749	500	1874	23	1/0	36	Basal usage 17kc, Fat 12kc, Alcohol 1kc, Ketones 4kc, protein 0.6g
1		68.733	1749	500	1874	25	1/0	36	Ketosis generated 0.4g of ketones worth 1.7kc,25.9% of capacity
1	06:00	68.733	1749	500	1874	25	1/1	36	Metabolised 0.3g of blood alcohol to 1kc and 0g of body fat
1		68.733	1749	500	1874	25	1/1	36	Metabolise blood alcohol used 0.1kc
1		68.731	1749

 

[CanucksTraveller]

In the words of the great Britney Spears, "Oops, I did it again".

I'm the only cyclist here, surprisingly. Gorgeous day for it! Sun, good temperature, not too much wind, it's been a fab cycling day.

 

[Blue Hills]

How long did it take you to bike 140 miles got to admire that.

sorry for delay.
distance was probably between 130 and 140 - not sure because of diversions.
I'm not fast and stopped a fair bit - for grills, beer, self-made coffees etc.
Left Wolverhampton sometime round midnight, hit the ribble valley sometime between 4 and 6 in the afternoon.
In my defence I was very fully loaded, there's some tough climbing in the latter bit when I was weakening and a fair bit of it was offroad - through country parks etc. I seemed to spend ages in the middle of the night cycling along grassy canal towpaths somewhere near Stoke. On one of them I made myself a double espresso about half three in the morning.
I wouldn't do it again

 

[Biker man]

sorry for delay.
distance was probably between 130 and 140 - not sure because of diversions.
I'm not fast and stopped a fair bit - for grills, beer, self-made coffees etc.
Left Wolverhampton sometime round midnight, hit the ribble valley sometime between 4 and 6 in the afternoon.
In my defence I was very fully loaded, there's some tough climbing in the latter bit when I was weakening and a fair bit of it was offroad - through country parks etc. I seemed to spend ages in the middle of the night cycling along grassy canal towpaths somewhere near Stoke. On one of them I made myself a double espresso about half three in the morning.
I wouldn't do it again

Well done don't think I fancy that 🚴

 

[matticus]

The points in time defined as high blood alcohol has deferred carbohydrate processing could lead to conflicts with very rapidly digestible carbs, such as a Maltodextrin found in gels. The gel could pass through the digestive system without being digested at all.

If people are eating gels with their beer, there is No Hope For Humanity.

 

[Biker man]

If people are eating gels with their beer, there is No Hope For Humanity.

Excuse me for showing my ignorance but what are gels ?

 

[matticus]

Excuse me for showing my ignorance but what are gels ?

Young women in Essex.

 

[IanSmithCSE]

Good afternoon,

An energy gel is a bit like the middle of a Jammie Dodger biscuit, is typically sold in a disposable packing about the length of a Mars bar and about a third as thick, the gel typically contains virtually no protein or fat and is just a sugar like substance that can be digested very quickly and have a low TEF (Thermal Effect of Food, the amount of energy required to digest it).

https://www.scienceinsport.com/shop-sis/go-range/go-gels

They are aimed at endurance and elite athletes and are an advance on "a can of coke and a Mars bar", the idea is get the maximum amount of energy from the minimum blood flow around the digestive system as this blood is needed by the muscles and to get it fast. They also reduce the need to urinate in comparison with cans of sugary drinks.

They mostly taste horrible, are expensive, a bit less than £1/100 kilo calories and many people have problems digesting a lot of them, they are used as a top up to the calories obtained from "real food".

Bye

Ian

 

[T4tomo]

In the words of the great Britney Spears, "Oops, I did it again".
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I'm the only cyclist here, surprisingly. Gorgeous day for it! Sun, good temperature, not too much wind, it's been a fab cycling day.

looks less steep in this photo, otherwise i would defo had two pints in one order! first phot looks like a 30% gradient from the arch. What's the pub btw, is it worth me cycling out from Hemel, I do quite like a Landlord?

 

[Biker man]

Good afternoon,

An energy gel is a bit like the middle of a Jammie Dodger biscuit, is typically sold in a disposable packing about the length of a Mars bar and about a third as thick, the gel typically contains virtually no protein or fat and is just a sugar like substance that can be digested very quickly and have a low TEF (Thermal Effect of Food, the amount of energy required to digest it).

https://www.scienceinsport.com/shop-sis/go-range/go-gels

They are aimed at endurance and elite athletes and are an advance on "a can of coke and a Mars bar", the idea is get the maximum amount of energy from the minimum blood flow around the digestive system as this blood is needed by the muscles and to get it fast. They also reduce the need to urinate in comparison with cans of sugary drinks.

They mostly taste horrible, are expensive, a bit less than £1/100 kilo calories and many people have problems digesting a lot of them, they are used as a top up to the calories obtained from "real food".

Bye

Ian

Thanks for the info think I will give it a miss .

 

[Dogtrousers]

All cyclists of course always take great care to responsibly dispose of the wrappers. Which is why I litter-picked this little lot the other day.

 

[Biker man]

All cyclists of course always take great care to responsibly dispose of the wrappers. Which is why I litter-picked this little lot the other day.
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I take my hat off to you and others who pick other peoples rubbish,it's shameful people have to.

 

[Dogtrousers]

There's a little spot where I regularly stop on my way home to text my ETA. Unfortunately this also seems to be the stopping point for some cycling club or other (or a lone gel addict). That's the second time I've cleaned up around 20 wrappers (first was maybe a year ago).

The thing is ... why? There's a nearby (rather weedy) hill. Perhaps they need to get their strength up for that?

 

[Biker man]

There's a little spot where I regularly stop on my way home to text my ETA. Unfortunately this also seems to be the stopping point for some cycling club or other (or a lone gel addict). That's the second time I've cleaned up around 20 wrappers (first was maybe a year ago).

The thing is ... why? There's a nearby (rather weedy) hill. Perhaps they need to get their strength up for that?

Use jelly babies myself and take the emety packet home with me.

 

[Blue Hills]

All an advert for beer fuelling I suppose ,never seen a fine ale bottle in a hedge.