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glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
I found this at my local. It's a beer I've never heard of from a producer I've never heard of, yet they are only about two miles from my house!

This is a fantastic beer, as was the stout I had (twice) before this but can't remember the name of. 😬

I've never had a smoky beer before, or a white stout, but this is really good.

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deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
I appear to be on a Fat Cat mission. I was at the Fat Cat pub in Norwich last week and it's nothing like the Fat Cat in Sheffield but I discovered afterwards that there's also a Fat Cat and Canary in Norwich. In fact, it turns out that there are 5 Fat Cat pubs in England and I've now been to 3 of them. So a visit to Ipswich and Colchester and I'll have the set.

Pretty decent cask bitter. "Bitter Sweet Symphony"
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Yesterday I went for a gentle 2 hour ride around the local countryside under an increasingly bright and warm sun, but not hitting the energy sapping 30+° we have experienced recently. Came home and thought it would be good to drink the single remaining bottle of belgian beer to go with the lunchtime sandwich.
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You will not be surprised to hear it was absolutely delicious. What flavour is packed into such small quantity. It was, unsurprisingly, cloudy, with much sediment at the bottom but of course I forgot that and it went straight into my tumbler.
The keen-eyed amongst you will note, from the second image, the best before date expired 4 months ago but I do not think this was in any way detrimental. The label also suggests it should not be stored horizontally. No, it never was, so that's ok. Above this pictogram, it also suggests it should not be drunk from a tumbler. But that is all I have, so what should I use instead? A large wine glass?
 
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Elybazza61

Legendary Member
Looked through the beer list for the East Anglian Beer Festival the other day and pleased to see a full compliment of Green Jack brews plus Earl Soham Victoria Bitter and Orkney Dark Island ;was most surprised to see Silly Saison from Belgium listed ,haven't had that since we were at Lille Braderie years ago were they had a mini bar mixed in with the antique and jumble stalls (was gorgeous even though we drank in the pouring rain!).

https://silly-beer.com/en/produit/s...A6xS-nthT-mib6lRDzjBES6KQlIF-0dQXodv7PV61LKI2

https://burystedmundsbeerfestival.com/beer-cider-list/
 

No Ta Doctor

Veteran
Yesterday I went for a gentle 2 hour ride around the local countryside under an increasingly bright and warm sun, but not hitting the energy sapping 30+° we have experienced recently. Came home and thought it would be good to drink the single remaining bottle of belgian beer to go with the lunchtime sandwich.
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You will not be surprised to hear it was absolutely delicious. What flavour is packed into such small quantity. It was, unsurprisingly, cloudy, with much sediment at the bottom but of course I forgot that and it went straight into my tumbler.
The keen-eyed amongst you will note, from the right hand image, the best before date expired 4 months ago but I do not think this was in any way detrimental. The label also suggests it should not be stored horizontally. No, it never was, so that's ok. Above this pictogram, it also suggests it should not be drunk from a tumbler. But that is all I have, so what should I use instead? A large wine glass?

I think that's the production date, rather than the best before date, especially given they're not usually so specific about what time you have to drink it by on its last day.... 😎

I don't put all that much in store about what glass to drink from, though I do like those wide chalice style goblets for a lot of the Belgian ales. It's nonsense about having the right brand glass for most of it (though I admit I'm a sucker for them). It's worth getting a cheapo special offer Leffe with a glass gift box if you see one come round, as that's a good shape.

Do get yourself a Duvel glass if you're ever drinking Duvel though, you need the glass to get the amazing head!

Lastly, I'm insanely jealous - Westvleteren is very hard to get hold of and expensive, and I've never had their blond, despite being a huge fan of lower strength blonds (anything under 7% really, this is Belgian beer...). I'm not sure with the Westvleteren, but the Westmalle Extra (4.8%) used to be kept for the monks themselves - it's still a rare find in the bottle shops
 
In Tewkesbury overnight , went to the Cross

What an excellent looking pub... it is making me thirsty!
 
I think that's the production date, rather than the best before date
As I bought it 2 years ago, I think not !! The tiny typeface reads "Tenminste houdbaar tot" and "Mindestens haltbar bis" which all means absolutely zero to me, very strange languages but the french reads "A commencer de préférence avant" which I do understand well...best before, basically!

It's worth getting a cheapo special offer Leffe with a glass gift box
Excellent idea, will look out for that.

Westvleteren is very hard to get hold of and expensive
Indeed. But I did not realise this at the time. I was staying only 5.5km away from the monastery/brewery and it was in the local restaurant on the counter and in the convenience store opposite, so I thought it would be easy to find...wrong! Two days later it had disappeared from the convenience store and the restaurant. So I asked in the restaurant where they were hiding it, it was under the counter, so I bought a few bottles. But not enough of them! And yes, it was silly money, much cheaper in the convenience store.

I have since learned it is relatively easy to buy directly from the monastery BUT you do have to jump through a few hoops e.g. let them know a month prior to arrival you are coming, stating a specific time and the registration number of the vehicle you will be arriving in! I think there are other criteria too.

used to be kept for the monks themselves - it's still a rare find in the bottle shops
I have heard this of the Westvleteren too...the monks like to drink the 6 and sell the 8 and 12.
 

katiewlx

Über Member
I appear to be on a Fat Cat mission. I was at the Fat Cat pub in Norwich last week and it's nothing like the Fat Cat in Sheffield but I discovered afterwards that there's also a Fat Cat and Canary in Norwich. In fact, it turns out that there are 5 Fat Cat pubs in England and I've now been to 3 of them. So a visit to Ipswich and Colchester and I'll have the set.

Pretty decent cask bitter. "Bitter Sweet Symphony"
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theres a Fat Cat Brewery tap in Norwich too, though its more like a craft beer student style pub now, than the traditional old school style pub or cask brewery. But the Fat Cat in Norwich is based on the Sheffield Fat Cat, and had permission to use the name, originally on the condition that it always had Kelham Pale rider for sale, so the legend goes anyway,not sure how that works now that Kelham brewery is gone and Thornbridge version seems different to me, anyway think its 35years since it opened this year.

few years back we did all the East Anglian ones, Colchester,Ipswich and all 3 Norwich ones, on a pub crawl, which was a fun day out:smile:
 

katiewlx

Über Member
Looked through the beer list for the East Anglian Beer Festival the other day and pleased to see a full compliment of Green Jack brews plus Earl Soham Victoria Bitter and Orkney Dark Island ;was most surprised to see Silly Saison from Belgium listed ,haven't had that since we were at Lille Braderie years ago were they had a mini bar mixed in with the antique and jumble stalls (was gorgeous even though we drank in the pouring rain!).

https://silly-beer.com/en/produit/s...A6xS-nthT-mib6lRDzjBES6KQlIF-0dQXodv7PV61LKI2

https://burystedmundsbeerfestival.com/beer-cider-list/

no Summer Dream though :sad: so not a full compliment imo, Id rather have that than flower power which is just its supercharged version but the higher abv kills all the subtlety and flavour of the elderflowers.

at least theres some 5x if you get a bit bored with the rest, and Adnams Extra coming back to fill that hole of an around 4% bitter they left by downgrading the og bitter.
 

katiewlx

Über Member
I think that's the production date, rather than the best before date, especially given they're not usually so specific about what time you have to drink it by on its last day.... 😎

I don't put all that much in store about what glass to drink from, though I do like those wide chalice style goblets for a lot of the Belgian ales. It's nonsense about having the right brand glass for most of it (though I admit I'm a sucker for them). It's worth getting a cheapo special offer Leffe with a glass gift box if you see one come round, as that's a good shape.

Do get yourself a Duvel glass if you're ever drinking Duvel though, you need the glass to get the amazing head!

Lastly, I'm insanely jealous - Westvleteren is very hard to get hold of and expensive, and I've never had their blond, despite being a huge fan of lower strength blonds (anything under 7% really, this is Belgian beer...). I'm not sure with the Westvleteren, but the Westmalle Extra (4.8%) used to be kept for the monks themselves - it's still a rare find in the bottle shops

is it though ? ok let me qualify that by saying in the UK yes it can be, right but so Beautiful Beers has got the Blond, the Dubbel and the Quad, from £16 up to £21.

now I wont pay £21 for a 330ml beer, regardless of how good it maybe, since I can get the St Bernardus Abt12 for £4 from the same shop, and the story goes theyre the same beer recipe, just brewed by different monks.

but fine thats the UK, its expensive and harder to find, and fair enough its been more than 10 years since I last went to Brugge, but we found it for sale in a number of bars, probably around 6-8 Euros I think vs the average back then was probably 3-5 Euros for the other beers we drank, and of course they give you the sell that its rare, you have to go on a special day and queue to get it and the monks dont like bars selling too much of it and so on. but we left one of the bars went into one of the nearby bottle shops to have a nosey and they had a case of it selling for 3Euros a bottle, and youre like wait we just paid double for this.

and maybe we were just lucky that day the shop had just got their one and only delivery of the year and we probably got half of it to take home between us, mine all sadly now drunk.

but is it that rare, really ?

as for the appropriate glass, this obviously :smile: but any belgian beer glass shaped like a goblet basically will do, I think the deal is the beer aromas & taste with the head work better when the rim of the glass opens outwards from the bottom, and doesnt come back in cinched, like in a wine glass or the Duvel glass does just below the rim, as that changes the flavours you get from supping the beer, and the stem allows you to hold the glass without transferring your body heat into the beer that warms it up and again alters the flavours. which happens in a tumbler, or pint glass for that matter
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