Bl**dy pavement riding RLJ's...

[thomas]

yes, because they ban underage drivers who take cars and drive recklessly. For them the ban doesn't start until they apply for a licence.

Yet, he could still go out tomorrow and kill someone on his bike....well, when he is out of Prison. Unlike underage drivers, if I didn't have a drivers licence by the time I was 20, it probably shows a lack of interest in learning to drive. Simply get the licence, wait a year for it to expire...and possibly even then not bother driving for another 10 years, or the rest of my life.

The punishment is not equal.

The driving ban might apply because he was charged with an offence that applies to all vehicles, rather than cyclists specifically.

You are probably right, but (not directed at you) it seems stupid to ban someone from driving a car, when cycles are not licensed vehicles and therefore don't require a driver's licence. If I was to cycle back from the pub over the drink drive limit, should I get the punishment for that and loose my driver's licence?

However, 7 months for cycling dangerously and killing someone doesn't sound like much IMO. Maybe turn that into years for something remotely just.

The point of him being on the pavement to jump a red light is only there to make it news worthy as it plays on common sterotypes. Cycling on the pavement is not dangerous. Cycling like a twat is, be that on the pavement or not. In the same way speeding is not necessarily dangerous. However an excessive use of speed is (now that could mean doing 15mph in a 30mph).

 

[Trevrev]

Banning him from driving is laughable !! It ain't going to stop him riding a pushbike. If i was ever banned from driving i'd ride my bike more.........
Ok, the old fella has died thats tragic. But, is everyone on this forum whiter than white, and never mounted the pavement to go round a red light ? Honest answers !!!
I've done it, and i see it daily.

 

[wafflycat]

Banning him from driving is laughable !! It ain't going to stop him riding a pushbike. If i was ever banned from driving i'd ride my bike more.........
Ok, the old fella has died thats tragic. But, is everyone on this forum whiter than white, and never mounted the pavement to go round a red light ? Honest answers !!!
I've done it, and i see it daily.

Indeed I do not. I do not RLJ and I don't cycle on the footpath.

 

[Trevrev]

WoW........Maybe i should be banned from this forum for being a naughty boy !!!

 

[purplepolly]

But, is everyone on this forum whiter than white, and never mounted the pavement to go round a red light ? Honest answers !!!
I've done it, and i see it daily.

No, never done that except when it's a shared path, I don't accelerate to get through the lights when I'm in the car either. And it's not because I'm whiter than white, I'm just not sad enough to have to be constantly shaving 0.04 seconds off my journey. Can't see the point.

 

[mr_cellophane]

Nope. Done the opposite, dropped off the CP onto the road to take advantage of green lights for the cars.

 

[Garz]

It seems that the laws need to adjust to banish the modern day reckless idiot! It does'nt matter if it's driving a car/motorbike/cycle, what matters is adequate punishment and transparent rules on the roads/lanes/pavements.

 

[purplepolly]

dropped off the CP onto the road to take advantage of green lights for the cars.

I've been on some where the crossing arrangments for cyclist must have been designed by an army obstacle course expert.

 

[addictfreak]

Banning him from driving is laughable !! It ain't going to stop him riding a pushbike. If i was ever banned from driving i'd ride my bike more.........
Ok, the old fella has died thats tragic. But, is everyone on this forum whiter than white, and never mounted the pavement to go round a red light ? Honest answers !!!
I've done it, and i see it daily.

Honest answer Trev

Of course I have!

Dont do it all the time but done it I certainly have. I do however take care not to cause anyone any problems and would not do it if there were peds around. It doesnt make it right of course, and if I did collide with anyone or a vehicle then it would be entirely my fault and I would except my punishment.

 

[trustysteed]

Pavement cyclists are self-gratification artists. If you want to RLJ then RLJ but don't be a bitch and jump on the pavement to do it where there are peds and little old ladies.

what a load of cock. do you really think there's a ped and a little old lady on every street corner? occasionally you may encounter a stretch of pavement with absolutely no-one on it. bizarre but true.

 

[Garz]

I think 7 months is adequate and IMO the guy will be sorry for the rest of his life, he didn't set out that morning to kill someone.

As for transparency? Clear as day in the HC you must not ride on the pavement.

Bullocks.

Seven months isnt adequate and how do you know the guy is really sorry? Try tell that to the victims family!

Also you think all the grey areas are going to be prevented by a simple 'must not ride on the pavement' ? Give over!

There's a section of road near where I live that in the middle of the road under a bridge, highway barriers split the pavement. Right here there is an 'end of cycle' paint on the road.. I guess your the kind of guy that can teleport over the barrier, oh wait.. you must not ride on the path!

 

[Gromit]

Banning him from driving is laughable !! It ain't going to stop him riding a pushbike. If i was ever banned from driving i'd ride my bike more.........
Ok, the old fella has died thats tragic. But, is everyone on this forum whiter than white, and never mounted the pavement to go round a red light ? Honest answers !!!
I've done it, and i see it daily.

I have never done it, I use the road or a designated cycle path. RLJ is also a no no for me too, I don't do it in my car so why should I when I'm cycling?

It's stupid and wrong, people always see the bad side of things, and it's people like you who give law abiding cyclists like me a bad name.

I'm tired of the amount of close passes I get on my commute, by drivers who see me as nothing but a tax dodging criminal. If every cyclist used the roads in the same way I do then we might get the respect we deserve.

 

[addictfreak]

Trev

Either you and I are total rebels, or we are the only honest ones here!

 

[trustysteed]

What's this? Don't tell me you are a self-gratification artist that rides on the pavement? Learn to ride on the road if you are.

yes, i'm a self-gratification artist that does ride on the pavement at times. i don't go bombing along if there's people on it and i always give them right of way. yes, i know it's not 'right' to be on the pavement which is why i make sure i don't scream along them when people are on them.

but it sees to be only in this country where there seems to be such an issue with pavement riding. having spent some time in france riding around, no-one bats an eyelid or cares if people are riding on the pavements, cycling is so much more accepted.

and yes, i do go through the odd red-light for you to have a pop at if you want. go up the wrong way in a one-way street now and then as well. oh yeah, stopped on a double yellow line at a junction this morning, sure that's illegal but hey, no harm, no foul.

 

[Trevrev]

Well Addictfreak, I think we're the only honest ones on here.
And yes i am a self-gratification artist.........Most men are !!! I'm being honest again.......This honesty thing is letting me down.
Trustysteed, welcome to naughty boys corner.