krushavik
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I just could not believe it, I had to play it twice this man should banned from driving. He is a complete nutter.
Sorry Ill rephrase that, the fact that the driver drove a 10 tonne vehicle into the side of a cyclist tells me that he was trying to kill him. Its the same argument that happens when someone smashes a glass into someones neck or stabs them,IMO they are trying to kill someone but it will never enter a court in this manner because of our flawed justice system. The issue wasn't his driving it was his aggresive behaviour which doesnt get picked up in any driving test, so an extended driving test makes no difference.Aiden, where is the attempt to kill cyclist?
There is no evidence of an attempt to kill. If the prosecution had run that charge, bus driver would have been acquitted
I just could not believe it, I had to play it twice this man should banned from driving. He is a complete nutter.
Its the same argument that happens when someone smashes a glass into someones neck or stabs them
Sorry Ill rephrase that, the fact that the driver drove a 10 tonne vehicle into the side of a cyclist tells me that he was trying to kill him........
That is exactly the evidence that makes an attempted murder charge impossible to prove.
If he had driven straight over cyclist from behind, it MAY have been possible to succeed on an attempted murder charge.
The actions of the driver were to swerve out from behind the cyclist and side swipe him. That is not at all consistent with an attempt to kill someone.
You need to calm down, put your righteous anger to one side and look at the facts. Lynch mob thinking never produces good justice.
Demanding convictions for offence that are not made out only serves to make people take the views of cyclists as being irrelevant as they are ludicrous and out of touch
It was dangerous driving and GBH. What we need to do is campaign for proper sentences for these type of offences, not demand the whole of the English Legal System be changed to meet your knee jerk reaction to an horrific crime.
The injuries to victims seem to dictate the offence this is wrong.
They would have to be very very madThe way things are going it won't be long before train drivers start aiming at cyclists.
Whats the difference between smashing into him from behind and swerving into him? I didn't demand a conviction for anything "IMO" the driver was intent on his actions, this was no accident. If the cyclist fell the other way then we wouldn't be having this conversation at all as he would have been under the wheels. The injuries to victims seem to dictate the offence this is wrong. I will post no further replies as I am on this forum for advice not to discuss the rights and wrongs of the Legal system. However I am definetly with you that we need to campaign for proper sentences as this is the perfect case,attempted murder too much, probably, GBH not enough, definetly.
I would appreciate it if you would cease to make assumptions about me as you dont know me thank you.
That's the second thread today where this sort of behaviour has been defended with the "moment of madness" excuse.
Single seizure with no specific cause
If you hold a category A, B, B+E, F, G, H, L or P licence you will need to stop driving for a minimum of six months from the date of the seizure. If you are also qualified to drive vehicles in categories C, C1, D, or D1 [includes BUS] you will need to stop driving for a minimum of five years from the date of the seizure.