So the latest instalment of the Proace saga has unfolded further, it went in for the 90,000 mile service, and over the last week or so the starter motor has been sluggish to turn over the engine, despite a new battery at the beginning of the year, yesterday it failed to turn the starter, so had to be left running as I dare not turn it off, the garage has reported back that the starter motor is kaput, and the drive shafts have packed up too, amongst some other things as well, they said they are ordering the parts, I suggested the only parts needed are 2 gallons of petrol & a box of matches, there was a workmates van left there too, with a coolant leak, picked up on the service, so anyone with the idea of converting one to a camper be warned, buy one of these at your own peril, be it in Citroen, Peugeot, fiat or Toyota versions, your bank account will thank you for it.