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Trevrev

Veteran
Location
Southampton
I did get up bright and early yesterday and did some park running. I had no choice really, i need to be kind to my legs at the moment and give them a break. It was boring but it's something i had to do.
It's the evenings that bother me with the park thing, all the youths hang out in the parks at night, lurking in the dark, being pains the the bum.
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
How's everyone's running form right now?

I've done almost 100km over the last two weeks, and I have my first race of the year on Sunday - the aptly named Resolution Run (8k). I managed to get out and do my usual 10.5k circuit over a mixture of normal and gravel roads, which I ran hard today to get an indication of form. My tme was 47 minutes - this time last year, I was out of shape and running in the mid 50s for the same distance. The weather was looking okay until today, but it has got really windy and the temperature here is due to drop to -13 tonight (it only gets worse until the end of February...)

I am still hoping to go under 32 minutes for the 8k on the day, but we'll see... I'll be happy with anything under 35.
 

pubrunner

Legendary Member
How's everyone's running form right now?

I've done almost 100km over the last two weeks, ....

Reading that, makes me feel most guilty; I must get out & get some miles in. I'm impressed with 100km over the Christmas period - such dedication; even when I've been training and racing reasonably well, I've always tended to slacken off and reach for the mince pies :hungry: .
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
Reading that, makes me feel most guilty; I must get out & get some miles in. I'm impressed with 100km over the Christmas period - such dedication; even when I've been training and racing reasonably well, I've always tended to slacken off and reach for the mince pies :hungry: .

I managed to get out 6 days out of 9 I was at my folks' over the Christmas period. I forced myself precisely to counteract my natural tendency to be a slacker, which most years leads me to put on a fair bit of weight. You could say I put on the km instead of the kg!
 

pubrunner

Legendary Member
. . . . . . . my natural tendency to be a slacker, which most years leads me to put on a fair bit of weight.

Me too ! As usual, I've over-indulged. !

Keep posting re. your running training & racing; I'm hoping that eventually, my guilt and shame will lead me to get starting some serious training. Nothing makes me feel more guilty, than reading about how much others are doing. I really must get out and do a bit of cycling this year; of course, time is always an issue. Regarding fitness, I always find that one or two hours of running , always 'produces' more than the same time on a bike.

You might find some useful stuff on this website, though you're probably so organised, you don't require it. (I'm using the weight chart ^_^ ).

http://www.davidhays.net/running/runlog/runlog.html
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
32.34 for the 8k Resolution Run today, and 15th place overall, near enough to what I'd hoped to make me happy! Lucky there was no snow, although it was quite cold.
 

Arsen Gere

Über Member
Location
North East, UK
So 32.34 for 8k equates to 40.25 for 10k so doing well for the off season.

I bumped up my swim distance to 4k in a session and found my ankles suffered, I'd done a marathon in October and I had to reduce my run distance to 4 miles two or three times a week so this was a surprise to me. I'd not swam 4k before let alone doing 2 a week.
I wanted to see what went wrong in the winter before I found out later in the year around competitions.
I kept the swim distance fixed and have slowly raised the run mileage to 15 miles for my LSR.
My first test of the year will be the Brass Monkey half marathon in York on the 22nd.
 
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xxmimixx

Senior Member
well gone back to running after 6 weeks off due to painful shin splints. Done 3m on the treadmill on Monday, 5m slow road running Tue and tonight another 5m a little faster (but not at my fastest!). NO pain so far but have been going slower. Unfortunately the injury has held me back and had planned a 10m event at the end of January. Do you think that Im being over ambitious or that I will do more harm than good if I do it?? Really want to but not to the detriment of my future fitness! :cry:
 

montage

God Almighty
Location
Bethlehem
I've just skimmed over this...you say your have a pronation in the left foot and that is the same leg that you have the shin splints?

Considering that foot-pronation is one of the major causes of shin splints, I'm surprised if it hasn't been mentioned already.

If the shins start to hurt again, check out an orthopedic and mention the pronation. Stretching and icing is good for mild cases of shin splints, but if you have it bad, then chances are it is a biomechanical problem and stretching and icing will only cure the symptoms.

My sources include a very long struggle and a lot of money spent on a lot of various experts
 

pubrunner

Legendary Member
well gone back to running after 6 weeks off due to painful shin splints. Done 3m on the treadmill on Monday, 5m slow road running Tue and tonight another 5m a little faster (but not at my fastest!). NO pain so far but have been going slower. Unfortunately the injury has held me back and had planned a 10m event at the end of January. Do you think that Im being over ambitious or that I will do more harm than good if I do it?? Really want to but not to the detriment of my future fitness! :cry:

IMO, I think that it would be advisable not to do the race. Having had 6 weeks off, your time will be slower that it would otherwise. Psychologically, I see little point in going to do a race where you know that you will achieve a 'slow' time.

The only reason for doing the race imo, would be to do it as a training run - and even then, it is possibly a little ambitious at this stage of the year. If you have a 'borderine' injury, it is more likely to re-occur in a race situation.

If you do the race, there is an element of risk - you don't want to make the shin spints re-occur; if an injury comes on halfway around the race, what then ? A painful walk to the finish ? Imagine how that might make you feel.
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
So 32.34 for 8k equates to 40.25 for 10k so doing well for the off season.

The question is whether I get much better for the on-season! I am not a specialist runner by any means, have only started running competitively in the last two years (this will really be my first full year of events) and I've never got below 40 minutes in a 10k. I hope by the end of the season, I will be able to do so regularly...
 
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xxmimixx

xxmimixx

Senior Member
I've just skimmed over this...you say your have a pronation in the left foot and that is the same leg that you have the shin splints?

Considering that foot-pronation is one of the major causes of shin splints, I'm surprised if it hasn't been mentioned already.

If the shins start to hurt again, check out an orthopedic and mention the pronation. Stretching and icing is good for mild cases of shin splints, but if you have it bad, then chances are it is a biomechanical problem and stretching and icing will only cure the symptoms.

My sources include a very long struggle and a lot of money spent on a lot of various experts

Hi Montage, the pronation found on those gait analysis machine at local sweatshop, was about 5%, Im no expert but it sounds relatively slight to me. Maybe what is more concern is that I suffered a slipped disk about 4 years ago, and every now and then I get niggly pain on the same side of my lower back. I have not been in such discomfort as to persuade me to get seen by a specialist again but if I reoccur any further injury then I will undoubtedly follow that route again.

IMO, I think that it would be advisable not to do the race. Having had 6 weeks off, your time will be slower that it would otherwise. Psychologically, I see little point in going to do a race where you know that you will achieve a 'slow' time.

The only reason for doing the race imo, would be to do it as a training run - and even then, it is possibly a little ambitious at this stage of the year. If you have a 'borderine' injury, it is more likely to re-occur in a race situation.

If you do the race, there is an element of risk - you don't want to make the shin spints re-occur; if an injury comes on halfway around the race, what then ? A painful walk to the finish ? Imagine how that might make you feel.

To be honest this would be my first race so have nothing to 'beat' just achieve completing it, to set a mark for my next race of the same distance.
Since my return I have run 3 times without issues, and by race day I could potentially have run another 6 times, and upped my mileage to 7 miles. So only have to find 3 miles. If I want to be 'positive' I can safely assume that if I run 7 miles twice on the week of the 23rd, without any pain or discomfort, then a shin splint in not as likely, half way through.

I have not made my mind up yet, just playing devils advocate. Like I said I would not like to cut off my nose to spite my face as I have many event planned 2+ a month from March, but just keeping my options open and being positive.
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
Second race of the year today, and the first one back after doing my knee last month. It's just a 5k, but there's 6 inches of snow on the ground and more snow falling as we speak... bring it on!
 

gambatte

Middle of the pack...
Location
S Yorks
Deliberate DNS today. Club had an aquathon. Unfortunately this bug has me morning phlegm raising in a way reminiscent of when I used to smoke. I know I could have done it, but I figured sense over enthusiasm. 2 weeks to recuperate for the Huddersfield 10k.
Instead we had a nice family walk round a local lake :thumbsup:
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
Did the 5k today - and once again, 15th place (out of 166). Time was 20.05, a little bit slower than I would normally have liked, but just having come back from injury and with the weather so cold and the surface so treacherous with slippery snow, I am quite pleased. What's more, this race also had a male/female pairs element to it, and my race partner and I won our age group. Now I have to adjust my training (well, restart my training) to aim simultaneously for a half marathon at the end of April and the first sprint tri's of the year around the same time.
 
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