Cycle camera w*****s

Discussion in 'Advocacy and Cycling Safety' started by BluesDave, 3 Feb 2019.

  1. Tizme

    Tizme Über Member

    Location:
    Somerset
    I tend not to use my camera now as most of the time I am doing my best to avoid busy roads as I no longer commute, however I wore it virtually all the time when I was.
    I got one after I was threatened by 3 blokes in a truck, they had obviously all been drinking, they pulled alongside me so the passenger could have a go at me and when I turned off they back-tracked to come back at me a second time, I reported the incident to the Police but video evidence would have gone a long way to finding them and possibly prosecuting (I wouldn't have held my breath!). Two days later I was very nearly taken out by a van overtaking a car coming towards me, the driver clearly saw me but decided to overtake anyway (the laugh and wave as he passed was the give away). I had been thinking about getting one prior to this anyway, as the incidents of close passing on my 29 mile round trip, commute over mainly country roads, seemed to be on the increase.
    I realised that the chances were that if I had been killed or seriously injured in either of those incidents the perpetrators would almost definitely got away with it and my family would have forever wondered what had happened. I felt, and still do, that I won't get justice, but my family might get some answers/closure.
    I suspect most of those who use cameras do so because they have been subjected to incidents like mine.
     
  2. Arjimlad

    Arjimlad Tights of Cydonia

    Location:
    South Glos
    Since 22 Nov 2018 I started keeping a list of drivers reported to the police online. I have reported twenty. That's just over one per week.

    Of those, only 2 were NFA. 6 received Notices of Intended Prosecution (2 of those for mobile phone fiddling in moving cars) and 12 received advisory/warning letters. I hope that might be 18 drivers held accountable who "up their game" for whatever reason.
     
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  3. Drago

    Drago Guru

    They wont. People who habitually break the law and/or endanger the lives of those around them take no heed whatsoever of such letters. Several forces kept records to see if it would be the case, and found no evidence that drivers who receive such a letter modify their behaviour and no link with reduced road offending rates. Hence all of those forces (including the one I worked for) no longer waste the resources doing it.

    It serves only to mollify those who made the report to the police, nothing more.
     
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  4. glasgowcyclist

    glasgowcyclist Charming but somewhat feckless

    Location:
    Scotland
    But won't it help when it comes to deciding to prosecute for their next similar offence and be considered during sentencing if convicted?
     
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  5. snorri

    snorri Legendary Member

    I don't have a helmet camera, but did have an incident with a private car which I felt justified a 'phone call to my local police station.
    After giving a brief report of the incident, the first question was "Do you have video evidence?" , I replied in the negative and was informed that no action could be taken without video evidence.
    In light of my experience, I don't consider those who use helmet cams to be idiots.
     
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  6. Arjimlad

    Arjimlad Tights of Cydonia

    Location:
    South Glos
    I have yet to have a repeat close pass from someone I have reported who has received such a letter, and I have seen the culprits out & about whilst riding to work. In fact one Transit pickup driver I reported (usually the most obnoxious of culprits) has since overtaken me cautiously & correctly a few times now. A local Corsa driver who overtook me on a blind bend had a visit from the local officer a couple of years ago, and she overtakes me at least twice a week on my commute, safely & carefully. Obviously more effective than a letter !

    This is all only anecdotal - and I have certainly been very unhappy with some fast close-passing idiots who have only had a little letter sent, rather than the full force of the law applied to their driving licences. I would love to know what the local force's criteria are for deciding whether to NIP or whether to warn.

    It is certainly very disappointing & disheartening when you get buzzed too close by something like a Transit, at speed, on a clear wide road and they just send a letter (despite my saying in the report that I felt it merited prosecution).
     
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  7. KneesUp

    KneesUp Veteran

    Perverts the lot of them..
     
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