Cycle users on pavements.

Discussion in 'General Cycling Discussions' started by simongt, 27 Aug 2018.

  1. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    I seem to be getting that more and more too :sad: Has there been a specific thing in the press recently to make walkers more fearful of cyclists on cycleways and back roads?

    Still not had one as bad as the guy a few years ago who threw the woman he was walking with into the hedge! :eek:
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  2. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    I don't understand this. Firstly, what do you mean "crossing the traffic flow twice"? Isn't the cycle route traffic flow to you?

    Secondly, do you mean to say that some parts of the UK are still building cycle route crossings that don't have priority? I'm shocked, I tell you(!) ;)
  3. rogerzilla

    rogerzilla Guru

    Round here there are three apparent reasons people cycle on pavements:

    - fear of traffic (and never having learned to cope with it)
    - no lights
    - general assumption that it's ok because in some places there are blue signs (cyclepaths blur the boundaries; I can show you paths where there is no segregation, no increased path width and in fact nothing to upgrade the path from a pavement other than a little blue sign). If it's safe to ride where there's a blue sign, surely it's safe to ride on any pavement?
  4. Yip those are the ones I can't understand Cambridge is full of them :-/
  5. classic33

    classic33 Legendary Member

    The clue is in the names, blurred over time, as more seek to justify their cycling on them on what is legally a road vehicle. Footpath/pedestrian crossing.

    Would the same stance be taken if the vehicle in question had an internal combustion engine and two wheels?
  6. Alan O

    Alan O Über Member

    Also, parents (and even grandparents) helping to take care of offspring are improving the chances of their shared DNA surviving, so earlier deaths even after reproductive age can expose surviving offspring to further selective pressure.
  7. Professor Alice Roberts informed me recently, via the wonder of television, that grand parent child care is why humans evolved to have such long lifespans.
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  8. Sixmile

    Sixmile Über Member

    N Ireland
    I was out on my lunch break there and I was stopped by a woman with a microphone and a fella with a professional camera rig. 'Em sir, can I ask you some questions about cycling on the road?'. In total, they asked 10 questions and one of them being 'Can cyclists cycle on the footpath?'. In exceptional circumstances but generally no, probably wasn't the answer that they wanted.
  9. Happy69

    Happy69 Regular

    I was just coming out of my front garden when a cyclist nearly hit me as he was on the pavement, luckily neither of us were injured but I did get to ask him about his dahon tho
  10. YukonBoy

    YukonBoy Extra solar

    Ultima Thule
    It is one of the great contradictions of car culture.

    Cycle on the pavement and you will be called reckless. Paint a white lime on another pavement, same dimensions running parallel to the road you are cycling on, and motorists will tell you to get on the obligatory cycle path.

    Cycling on the pavement is both reckless and obligatory at the same time, like some kind of entangled quantum superposition.
  11. Arjimlad

    Arjimlad Tights of Cydonia

    South Glos
    Doesn't help when the Council signpost a narrow busy shared-use pavement as a "Cycle Track" - requires giving way at multiple sideroads, negotiating pushchairs, dog leads, children etc. Not as if there wouldn't be room for a real "cycle track" here, is it ?

    brook way .jpg
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  12. glasgowcyclist

    glasgowcyclist Charming but somewhat feckless

    The pavement on the left here is barely wider than my handlebars but that didn't stop the council reclassifying it as a shared facility for cyclists and pedestrians. A wee blue sign magically makes it safe!

    Not that they could afford to remove an inch of those four lanes of road from the cars, oh no.

  13. Milkfloat

    Milkfloat Veteran

    I see that as the cars giving way to the bikes. This is my nearest piece of quality National Cycles network. Unfortunately it is designed for owls with the ability to rotate their heads at least 270 degrees. Me, I ride on the road and screw the drivers.

    On a plus note, they just spent an absolute fortune on the footpaths, so they can divert cyclists out of the way of a pinch point with no easy way to rejoin the road. It would have been significantly better and cheaper to just remove the pinch point..
  14. tom73

    tom73 Über Member

    @Arjimlad we've a few like that round here too our powers that be solution to side roads is cyclist re join road signs then multiple cyclist re join signs. By the time you've got on , off , on ,off may as well use the road. They also make use of signs so small you never see them so no-one ever users them in the 1st place. We even have some signed as routes that take you miles out the way so they get given a miss too. But still they can go around telling everyone they are doing something. Bless them
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  15. Arjimlad

    Arjimlad Tights of Cydonia

    South Glos
    Sadly not, there are faded give way markings on the pavement. Pinch point in your second photo is a pedestrian refuge for those wanting to cross over. They could perhaps have sacrificed a little more pavement to alleviate things ?
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