Cycling back from a night out involving heavy drinking

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benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
You probably wouldn't think like that if a cyclist swerved into the path of your car causing you to crash and injuring you and or your family or worse still causing the death of a member of your family.

Has that ever, ever happened?

To suggest that cycling drunk is as bad as driving drunk is idiotic.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Has that ever, ever happened?

To suggest that cycling drunk is as bad as driving drunk is idiotic.
Breathalised coming home from work one night as the person in charge of one of the three vehicles involved in an incident.
Driver of the Range Rover, that hit the other car, after overtaking me on the wrong side insisted I be treated the same as he was.
He claimed I'd been drinking when he passed me, causing him to go onto the wrong side of the road.
I guess it was done as much to shut him up as much as owt else.

He managed to write off the car he hit, and the three occupants inside were cut from the car.
 
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welsh dragon

Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
Has that ever, ever happened?

To suggest that cycling drunk is as bad as driving drunk is idiotic.

Did I say it was as bad? No. I said a drunk cyclist should be treated like a drunk driver. Did I say something like that had happened? No. I said how would you feel, if a cyclist caused an accident like that and your family was injured. Would you then feel that they should be treated more leniently because it was a bike?
 

welsh dragon

Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
There are well established differences though. We have a measurable history of death and destruction caused by drunk drivers. You would struggle to find any significant equivalent for drunk cyclists.
The degree to which alcohol impairs the ability to cycle safely appears to be less than the degree to which it impairs the ability to drive safely.

I agree with what you say, im just saying that they should be treated the same as far as the law is concerned. It is a road vehicle after all.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
It is an office if cycling or pushing a bike drunk
  • Riding a cycle on a road or other public place while unfit to ride through drink or drugs (RTA s.30)
  • Being drunk while in charge of a carriage on any highway or other public place (LA 1872, s.12; Corkery v Carpenter [1951] 1 KB 102)
For the riding while unfit offence you have to be, well, riding.

Curiously, you can only be convicted of the drunk in charge offence if you’re not riding. So if you attempt to ride but can’t, or (possibly) even if you’re just pushing your bike along, you could be convicted of being drunk in charge (RTOA s.5; DPP v Watkins [1989] QB 821, 831)

http://ukcyclerules.com/2010/09/21/can-you-ride-when-youve-been-drinking/
 

welsh dragon

Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
I fully agree the, I wouldn't want the consequences on my conscience part. To take it the other way, what about a drunk pedestrian?

If they caused an accident then they should be prosecuted surely, but I suppose it is all hypothetical. How many people and cyclists would be prosecuted? Should be and are are two different things I suppose. I suppose it would all depend on the circumstances.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
When i lived out of town and socialised in town i did it quite a few times... on occasion i was stupidly drunk on the ride home. These days I'm much more sensible... usually.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Lots of times, all of summer usually, I can use the canal to get home. Lost my glasses and cut my head after last years Saltaire festival. :sad:
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
I fully agree the, I wouldn't want the consequences on my conscience part. To take it the other way, what about a drunk pedestrian?

A one year ban from walking more than a couple of metres from the front door/front gate and compulsory taxi rides at his/her expense?
 
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