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Ootini

Ootini

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North Wales
I ordered the £10 pannier bags. Gotta say I'm impressed, they may not be up to Ortlieb standards, but for the money they're cracking !
 

Gravity Aided

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Land of Lincoln
10 pound pannier bags probably won't hold up long term, but they'll get you going, and hopefully hold up for the whole tour. I'd find zippers and hardware to be the problem, and those could be fixed, for a bit. But I'd also start watching eBay for something better.
 
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Ootini

Ootini

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North Wales
Yep, the weak point I've noticed is the zips on the small pockets are quite stiff, and withthe little skirt of material covering them, making them even more awkward to open I can see the zips being the first thing to go . But, with any luck, they'll survive the trip and if I catch the touring bug, I may well splash out on something a bit more robust.
 

Gravity Aided

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Ortliebs are good, but cost a great deal. Others are cheaper, some have comparable quality. I like the top roller design, but good YKK zippers on older panniers are also quite good. Waterproof, weight, wearability- watchwords for panniers.
 

Gravity Aided

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Land of Lincoln
By weight, I mean weight of fabric, I should certainly have clarified that. All goes to durability, in my book. When you consider whata loaded touring bicycle weighs, the weight of the panniers themselves make only a little difference. Now just wait a month or two, and I'll have some pictures of my new panniers to replace the crappy Schwinn panniers I had. I made these out of Preen garden weeder containers, and they are solid, sealable plastic. More streamlined than kitty litter containers, as they are narrower, and with a sealing and lockable plastic top. Just have to transfer the fixtures from the Schwinn Panniers, or make new fixtures. Not a priority now, as the touring steeds are in bits in the basement right now. My ****load is about 25-30 pounds, as is the bicycle.
 
Yep, the weak point I've noticed is the zips on the small pockets are quite stiff, and withthe little skirt of material covering them, making them even more awkward to open I can see the zips being the first thing to go . But, with any luck, they'll survive the trip and if I catch the touring bug, I may well splash out on something a bit more robust.

Run a pencil along the zip a few times, the graphite will lubricate it.
 
Hi all,
I'm planning a 4/5 day cycling-camping trip in the spring. It will be a 40 mile/day circular route around North Wales. There's be three of us (so far) on the trip, so we can divide up the weight of kit over our three bikes. We're not planning on carrying everything, we'll be eating at cafe's etc where we can, so only really need emergency / can't be bothered paying for it food.
Basically my question is: If the three of us are riding road bikes (Spesh Allez, Cube race and my Ridley XBow running road tyres) are we going to encounter any "bike" related issues? Personally I can't think of any, but then I see a lot of people raving about "touring bikes". For such a short trip I'm unsure as to what benefits a "touring" bike would have over our CX/Road bikes?

This is the proposed route: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Trelogan, Holywell, Flintshire CH8 9BY/Bala Lake/Criccieth/Aberdaron/Nefyn/Bangor/Rhos on Sea/Trelogan CH89BY/@53.170269,-4.0137627,9z/data=!4m55!4m54!1m5!1m1!1s0x48652adc814660c1:0xb5e631386dc50bf!2m2!1d-3.3270948!2d53.309807!1m5!1m1!1s0x486543ca9cc3d33d:0xc391119aeecc7a74!2m2!1d-3.6088066!2d52.8972141!1m5!1m1!1s0x4865980d6aae4e47:0xcab61fe06b43cb73!2m2!1d-4.233645!2d52.919565!1m5!1m1!1s0x4865e57c871d1d9d:0xa72c55112d44738a!2m2!1d-4.711515!2d52.804729!1m10!1m1!1s0x486595368c40c9bb:0xb15ce10e0ceac44b!2m2!1d-4.520111!2d52.9356549!3m4!1m2!1d-4.3681489!2d53.0188807!3s0x4865bce5dec89641:0x758fff4ec07e75a8!1m5!1m1!1s0x486500b5803334ff:0xb0aacaceceaf4ebf!2m2!1d-4.129263!2d53.22739!1m5!1m1!1s0x48651f8810602de3:0xfdca101d80460a9!2m2!1d-3.7499412!2d53.3080507!1m5!1m1!1s0x48652adc814660c1:0xb5e631386dc50bf!2m2!1d-3.3270948!2d53.309807!3e1

“YOU’VE NEARLY STOLEN MY ROUTE”
Except for a few diversions up some hills, to make it more challenging!

Road bike is just fine, if you keep to road at Llannulas to Rhyl because
of tons of sand and pebbles on trail, need a 4,4
May see you in the spring, good tour route low car and HGV.
 
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Ootini

Ootini

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“YOU’VE NEARLY STOLEN MY ROUTE”
Except for a few diversions up some hills, to make it more challenging!

Road bike is just fine, if you keep to road at Llannulas to Rhyl because
of tons of sand and pebbles on trail, need a 4,4
May see you in the spring, good tour route low car and HGV.
You've actually added hills intentionally?!?!
 
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Ootini

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North Wales
*UPDATE*

Right then kids, the Panniers turned up and as I said, I was quite impressed with them considering the cost, but I still had to find a pannier rack. I was going to grab the Tortec one listed earlier, but on Sunday I was driving past my LBS, which don't stock huge amounts of kit, but figured I'd see what they had anyway. The bloke in the shop rooted around in the stock room and eventually came back with a Raleigh RSP adjustable rack, I think it's also rebranded as an Avenir Pioneer rack, I was a bit dubious at first, with it being an adjustable rack, but then he clinched the deal, by offering it for £15 as there were a few scratches on it, and a bolt or two missing. He did however replace the missing bolts and fit it for me, free of charge, which was handy as it looked properly faffy to get it fitted properly, I'd have balls'd it up.
So, rack fitted, bags fitted (with random camping kit). Added the tent to the top of the rack and realised the tent is way, way too big! 3.5kg and about 80cm long when packed. It's a leisure tent to be fair, not a hiking tent. So that's been ditched and I've bought a cheap as chips 1 man hiking tent coming in at 1.4kg and 30cmx20cm packed. I've also replaced my tiny, thin crappy tesco sleeping bag with a slight heavier Vango jobbie.
 
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Ootini

Ootini

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North Wales
Sounds like you are getting ready :smile:
To be honest, what I'm trying to do is get most of the kit together, so I can start riding the bike with everything loaded. Need to build my fitness up, carrying weight on the bike and getting used to how it handles, probably won't actually be going camping until March / April.
 

mcshroom

Bionic Subsonic
Nothing wrong with planning ahead. I'm just putting together a camping tour along the Lon Las Cymru second week of March. It's a good way to keep exited when the weather's bad outside.
 
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