Cyclists that put a slur on our good name

[Sh4rkyBloke]

You're being sarcastic right?

If a cyclist is approaching a parked car in the gutter it is VERY EASY to anticipate they are going to go around it - regardless of if they look/indicate/dance with maraccas.

Yes. Missed the smiley out as I thought it would be obvious... but then when you read it (i.e. me reading it) knowing the tone it should be delivered with it's easy to see that, apologies.

I like the idea of a cyclist dancing with maraccas when overtaking a parked car though...

 

[bibes]

Yes - as someone who regularly zooms around central London on a bike, I am often appalled by the "holier than thou" attitude of some cyclists. Still, as a (motor)biker, I'm also appalled at the behaviour of some other (motor)bikers. Funnily enough, as a car driver, I tend to find most car drivers pretty responsible.

Tossers in all walks of life I'm afraid although I must confess to finding cyclists the most self -regarding and prone to insane rage if one dares to encroach on their self-satisfied and self-imposed sense of moral authority.

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

Blimey, the CIA would probably be interested in your abilities. Did I see you in that programme 'Heroes'?

It's called "anticipation" and is not a psychic ability, it is something that one picks up over time, little things that one can pick up on that alert you to the possibility that someone may be about to do something unusual or out of the ordinary.

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

Back to the OP it sounds like some poor cycling and some poor driving - "six of one and half a dozen of the other" and each shouting the odds in their own way

 

[Amanda P]

in order to save their pathetic worthless lives?

You're not trolling? So you seriously think anyone who cycles badly (in your opinion) is pathetic, and their life is worthless?

Words fail me.

 

[BentMikey]

Yes - as someone who regularly zooms around central London on a bike, I am often appalled by the "holier than thou" attitude of some cyclists. Still, as a (motor)biker, I'm also appalled at the behaviour of some other (motor)bikers. Funnily enough, as a car driver, I tend to find most car drivers pretty responsible.

Tossers in all walks of life I'm afraid although I must confess to finding cyclists the most self regarding and prone to insane rage if one dares to encroach on their self-satisfied holier-than- thou sense of moral and ethical superiority.

LOL! That's quite an amusing reveal of your own world view.

 

[taxing]

Why would you assume I'm not a driver? Perhaps the difference is that I'd like to think I'm much more aware of the danger I bring to others piloting a tonne and a half of metal around the public highway.

For that matter, why would you assume most people on here aren't drivers? Some aren't sure, but I'd guess they are in the minority.

I didn't think I was a driver, but now you're making me question myself... could I be a driver? I'm just not sure.

 

[BentMikey]

LOL, you got me there, sorry, missing comma. I reckon you probably know what I mean though.

 

[bibes]

LOL! That's quite an amusing reveal of your own world view.

Glad to put a smile on your face!

 

[small fish]

I beeped at a cyclist the other day... approaching a crossroads, lights green for me, i saw a dreamy cyclist approaching the junction to my left who just sailed through in front of me. Not massively dangerous, I predicted what she was going to do and slowed down as i didn't want cyclist all over the front of my car...
But she didn't appear to look at all and i had no idea if she'd even seen how close i was - so I beeped my horn for about a second. Got a mouthful of abuse in return - but on the bright side, no finger!

 

[Amanda P]

Why are so many drivers so keen to use their horn? The brakes are usually much more effective at avoiding a collision.

I think the only time I've ever used my horn in twenty-something years of driving has been when another driver is reversing towards me having clearly not seen me, and I've nowhere to go to avoid him.

In any other situation, my attention is taken up with braking and looking all around to see what the consequences of me braking might be, and where I might go if braking isn't enough to avoid the collision. Sometimes a passenger will say I should have used the horn, but why? What good would it do?

It's true that, sitting inside a car, the sound of a horn sounds like a polite, if urgent, warning. Outside that tin box, it can be deafening and startling. In a busy situation, no-one knows who's beeping at whom anyway.

 

[ManiaMuse]

I beeped at a cyclist the other day... approaching a crossroads, lights green for me, i saw a dreamy cyclist approaching the junction to my left who just sailed through in front of me. Not massively dangerous, I predicted what she was going to do and slowed down as i didn't want cyclist all over the front of my car...
But she didn't appear to look at all and i had no idea if she'd even seen how close i was - so I beeped my horn for about a second. Got a mouthful of abuse in return - but on the bright side, no finger!

About a second? That's quite a long time tbh and could come across as aggressive. If you were slowing down anyway to avoid hitting her then why is there any need to alert her of your presence using your horn? If anything you should have beeped as she was pulling out without looking rather than after it had happened.

It's surprising how startling a car horn at close range can be when you are on a bike and not expecting it.

 

[Jezston]

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Come back and talk to me when you know what you are going on about.
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Another lame cop out response from Lee, being insulting when he can't actually address the points he's attempting to respond to. Seriously weak, and sadly typical of his deliberately incendiary and unconstructive borderline-trolling style.

Where in either the OP or the second 'drivers perspective' post did anyone mention anything about the errant cyclist in question pulling out to move around parked cars?

If a driver moves out to give some distance and starts overtaking a cyclist, and the cyclist without looking behind him starts moving out into the path of the driver, how is the driver supposed to respond? Like others have suggested, are those of you taking the cyclists 'side' suggesting that cars should never attempt to overtake a cyclist ever in case they stupidly pull out into their path without looking?

I'm a bit bemused by many of the responses here, and unless there has been a massive breakdown in communication and we're all missing each others points, I get the feeling that some people are reacting by being unshakedly defensive because one of THEM has attacked one of US. It seems to be like when you get motorists jumping to the defence of bad drivers on the comments threads in articles about a cyclist being injured because they feel the article is an attack against motorists from cyclists.

 

[Bruce]

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Yep, I have a problem with drivers and illegal use of the horn.


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Yes take the below as an example of some idiot sounding a horn at a stopped vehicle for no reason other than to alienate the other road user

https://www.cyclechat.net/

 

[BentMikey]

Yes take the below as an example of some idiot sounding a horn at a stopped vehicle for no reason other than to alienate the other road user

http://www.cyclechat...sy-from-sunday/

Well, I'm as guilty of the next person of sometimes using the horn inappropriately, but that particular video is most definitely not an example. I'd say that was perfect use of the AirZound. Used in warning only, the horn, my anticipation, and my braking worked very well to correct for another road user's mistake and avoid an incident.