Depressing living here. Any ideas about moving abroad?

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vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Not only the weather but the me me greedy materialistic society we've become. The roads are packed out with get there as fast as possible ignorant motorists. Shopping centres are full of overweight slovenly scruffy gits and the country is run by self serving politicians.

The solution might lie with moderating your views and prejudices:
  • You don't have to materialistic nor envy those who are.
  • Only a minority of motorists fit your description.
  • Avoid the shopping centres whose customers offend you and shop at Waitrose and John Lewis.
  • Your choice of country to move to becomes very limited if you dislike ones governed by self-serving politicians.
What can you do to improve your lot in Accrington?

Are there nicer places to live nearby?
Find some new social activities - there's probably lots to do that you are currently unaware of.
Shrug off motorists' indiscretions and don't let them get to you.
Remind yourself that living in the UK is such an attractive proposition that more folk choose to come here then to leave. All those immigrants can't be wrong. ;)
Change your shopping habits and don't let others' life choices get to you.
 

twentysix by twentyfive

Clinging on tightly
Location
Over the Hill
True, but sometimes it actually IS! :okay:

I would like to continue living in the UK most of the time but start wintering somewhere warmer and sunnier, such as the Costa Blanca. I would also like the option of going away at short notice at other times of the year if the weather were playing up here, as it is now.

I definitely would NOT like to live somewhere with very hot summers! 20-25 degrees C is just right for my cycling. 30+ makes me want to hide in the shade!

I do agree that there are a lot of unpleasant people about, but my experience of CycleChatters has been much more positive. I have ridden with over 100 different CC members now and there are only a couple of people that I would not like to meet again.

Name names!!!
:laugh:
Sorry - couldn't resist

IGMC
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
He's depressed about the weather...it is better (warmer, drier) in London than the NW !
But he is also concerned about the "me me greedy materialistic society we've become. The roads are packed out with get there as fast as possible ignorant motorists. Shopping centres are full of overweight slovenly scruffy gits and the country is run by self serving politicians" which certainly applies to London as much as (or more than?) the NW! :whistle:
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
If you're fed up at the moment, why not book a last minute holiday after the Easter holidays in a place you might consider moving to. Go for a few weeks, get a flavour

It can be eye opening. I spent a month cycling along the Danube through Hungary, Croatia and Serbia last summer and there was a common theme for the folk that I met - they worked very hard for poor financial returns. The climate was nice, the standard of living was crap. Some of the big cities looked fab until you discovered their underbellies. I spent four days trying to like Belgrade but found little to like outside of the tightly focussed tourist zone. The unemployment rates were eye watering and the national minimum wages, pitiful. Folk with happy faces were in the minority and there was a quiet resignation that they had to make the best of what little they had.

Don't get me wrong, I met some fantastic people who went out of their way to be hospitable but it opened my eyes to the fact that I have a lot to be grateful for with my life in the UK.
 

twentysix by twentyfive

Clinging on tightly
Location
Over the Hill
But he is also concerned about the "me me greedy materialistic society we've become. The roads are packed out with get there as fast as possible ignorant motorists. Shopping centres are full of overweight slovenly scruffy gits and the country is run by self serving politicians" which certainly applies to London as much as (or more than?) the NW! :whistle:
That's what I'd picked up on.
He's depressed about the weather...it is better (warmer, drier) in London than the NW !
The weather can and does get one down. If I did want to trade Accy for some nicer weather I'd pick East Anglia. Winters are bl**dy cold tho'
 

Blue

Legendary Member
Location
N Ireland
I am retired and spend a lot of time in the Rep of Cyprus. It's sunny and I love the place and the people. However, don't expect it to be like the UK with sun - it isn't.

Any form of work other than very low paid work would be hard to find as the economy is knackered. Buying property is a minefield and something of a national scandal(I wouldn't do it). PHI is a must.

I feel a great part of our enjoyment of the place comes from the facts that we are of independent means, in good health and that the Cypriots have taken Mrs B and me to their hearts more than the other ex-pats/tourists because we have learned a bit of Greek and try to mix (I even sing in Greek at Greek only karaoke).
 
As you mentioned in your OP, you are looking for a change of scenery. In that case have a punt and try it out for say a few months. If you think permanent, it becomes that much harder because of various uncertainties and inertia sets in.

Find that room above a shop and go for it. Your chances are better where English tourist congregate and there are loads of British businesses that look after the. You might get something that suits your intended lifestyle.

If it works, don't forget us. Give us a shout.
 
OK, I live in Norway, but given the chance I'd emigrate to Australia.

New Zealand (I've not been there) is, from what I've heard, more laid back. Might be worth considering.

It depends on how old you are, what trade you have, dependent family, savings. But it's got to be worth a try.

https://www.newzealandnow.govt.nz/?utm_source=newzealand.com&utm_medium=referral

NZ is just like the UK, weather wise with far less people and very lonely. Jobs are hard to find. You will constantly hear of locals moving out to OZ , UK and US. Entry is hard as well unless there is an occupation demand match.

However the scenery is breath taking. Its is truly a tourist haven but not necessarily a place to reside. Know a well educated and hard core socialist who gave up everything to go there to be some sort of self sufficient hermit.
 

Glow worm

Legendary Member
Location
Near Newmarket
NZ is just like the UK, weather wise with far less people and very lonely. Jobs are hard to find. You will constantly here of locals moving put to OZ , UK and US. Entry is hard as well unless there is an occupation demand match.

However the scenery is breath taking. Its is truly a tourist haven but not necessarily a place to reside. Know a well educated and hard core socialist who gave up everything to ove there to be some sort of self sufficient hermit.

From what I have read, NZ is even more of a cyclist hating country than the UK - which is frankly quite an achievement. Touring cyclist Josie Dew couldn't wait to leave the place after several encounters with psycopathic drivers.
 
From what I have read, NZ is even more of a cyclist hating country than the UK - which is frankly quite an achievement. Touring cyclist Josie Dew couldn't wait to leave the place after several encounters with psycopathic drivers.

NZ is a trail bike haven but a nigthmare for road bikes. The roads because of its vast landscape is very misleading for tourist taking to the toads. They tend to go very fast on long bends and even straight roads and collisions, overturned vehicles are.part of the scenery. Best to stick to city roads.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
The world really is your oyster if you're prepared to live and work overseas; all over Africa for example there are businessmen in their late fifites who established factories in the years after independence, which grew into big companies and are now mature and profitable. This generation of post-independence businesmen wants to retire and enjoy the fruits of their labour but can't find anyone to succeed them. Their kids, who have been educated in the UK or the USA, don't want to come back to run Dad's business, which is fully grown with no propect of further improvment but all the hassle of the unwelcome attentions of corrupt officials. The founders don't trust anybody outside their family not to rip them off so the only option is to try to find a professional expat manager and pay them a salary to run the business, but nobody wants to go and work in Africa. I could introduce you tomorrow to an extremely good man who is in that position but you'd have to live and work for him in Lagos.
 
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