EV Owners Thread

[Bonefish Blues]

I really like them, a bit like an Audi A2 ahead of their time

Still very competitive because BMW threw the kitchen sink at them in design and content terms, and for what you get, cheap as chips. I haven't enjoyed a drive as much for a long time. Just like the A2, I suspect they didn't make a penny, either!

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Friday 13th

Just seen a real oddity

Kirkby Stephen
Cumbria

A Mustang, but, stretched to ‘6 doors’!!!
It was a pale green

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

I agree, but often it's corner cutting. For example, I'm pretty sure that the 12v battery in my ID4 is a bog standard ICE 12v battery rather than a re-engineered one that is considerably lighter (and smaller capacity) like you find in a Tesla.

When SWMBO needed a new 12v battery in her Yaris hybrid, l was surprised by how small it was (hidden under the back-seat)
However, l was far more surprised by how much the damned thing cost!
I seem to recall one place quoted almost £250!
(a lot less, in the end at a main dealer!)

[*]Seat in the ID4 is a manual seat. In both Teslas it's fully electric and adjusts to the user entering the car

Our XKR did that back in 2007
Two keys (& a 3rd!)
The steering wheel retracted when the ignition was turned off, resetting to the correct position when a key was inserted
(as did the door mirrors)

The 3rd key was described as a ‘valet park’
Whether it didn’t allow boot to be opened, or…. reduced power output/restriced speed, l have absolutely no idea!!

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Fri 13th

Electric LGVs are now looking like they’ll have to start paying for access to the London ULEZ, or part of the full charge
How long before it spreads to other ULEZ, & then to private cars?

As seen in ’Commercial Motor’ (dated 5th June)

 

[icowden]

Electric LGVs are now looking like they’ll have to start paying for access to the London ULEZ, or part of the full charge
How long before it spreads to other ULEZ, & then to private cars?

It's a bit weird. The original issue with congestion IIRC was that it cause toxic pollution, not that it was just too busy.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

It's a bit weird. The original issue with congestion IIRC was that it cause toxic pollution, not that it was just too busy.

EVs cause toxic pollution too via particulates from their tyres.

 

[figbat]

EVs cause toxic pollution too via particulates from their tyres.

As do ICE cars.

 

[DRM]

Fri 13th

Electric LGVs are now looking like they’ll have to start paying for access to the London ULEZ, or part of the full charge
How long before it spreads to other ULEZ, & then to private cars?

As seen in ’Commercial Motor’ (dated 5th June)

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In all fairness, who the hell want's to drive an HGV round London, I'd take it as a hint the boss hated me

 

[Bonefish Blues]

As do ICE cars.

Yes.

 

[icowden]

EVs cause toxic pollution too via particulates from their tyres.

I suspect that at around 10mph the particulate release is very low. It's the friction at higher speeds that causes the biggest problem, plus EVs won't be using any brake pads at that speed.

 

[icowden]

In all fairness, who the hell want's to drive an HGV round London, I'd take it as a hint the boss hated me

Exactly, it's unlikely an HGV driver will go "sod the M25 - I'm going to cut across central London". If you are driving an HGV in London it's because that's where you are delivering to.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

I suspect that at around 10mph the particulate release is very low. It's the friction at higher speeds that causes the biggest problem, plus EVs won't be using any brake pads at that speed.

Not correct aiui - weight & torque are major factors to their production, both of which EVs have in abundance.

 

[icowden]

Not correct aiui - weight & torque are major factors to their production, both of which EVs have in abundance.

Along with friction. No friction, no particulates.
Factors Influencing Tyre Particulate Emissions:

• 
  
• Vehicle Speed: Higher speeds increase tyre wear and particulate emissions.
  Tyre Pressure: Lower tire pressure can increase tire wear and particle emissions.
  Driving Style: Aggressive driving with rapid acceleration and braking contributes to higher emissions.
  Vehicle Weight: Heavier vehicles tend to put more pressure on tires, potentially increasing wear.
  Braking: Moderate and extreme braking events can also generate particulate matter from brake and tire wea
  Tyre Type and Condition: Different tire types and wear levels will impact the amount of particulates produced.
  
  So at 10mph you aren't likely to be driving aggressively, you'll have decreased wear and be unlikely to need extreme braking, plus EVs are very good at slowing down.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Along with friction. No friction, no particulates.
Factors Influencing Tyre Particulate Emissions:

• 
  
• Vehicle Speed: Higher speeds increase tyre wear and particulate emissions.
  Tyre Pressure: Lower tire pressure can increase tire wear and particle emissions.
  Driving Style: Aggressive driving with rapid acceleration and braking contributes to higher emissions.
  Vehicle Weight: Heavier vehicles tend to put more pressure on tires, potentially increasing wear.
  Braking: Moderate and extreme braking events can also generate particulate matter from brake and tire wea
  Tyre Type and Condition: Different tire types and wear levels will impact the amount of particulates produced.
  
  So at 10mph you aren't likely to be driving aggressively, you'll have decreased wear and be unlikely to need extreme braking, plus EVs are very good at slowing down.

As long as everyone maintains a steady 10mph through Central London all will be cleaner and greener and it'll be happier days. But that's not how averages work.

 

[kynikos]

As long as everyone maintains a steady 10mph through Central London all will be cleaner and greener and it'll be happier days. But that's not how averages work.

Should make for some interesting interactions at junctions, crossroads etc...