Fidgety riders on a club ride, during a busy event.

[jowwy]

There was me thinking he was on a club ride......not all club rides race around acting they are like a tour de france peleton in training.

Move from the fidgeter or maybe go do a pull on the front, instead of moaning like a chimp

 

[Welsh wheels]

I will admit on a ride, I do pat my pockets every now and then just to check that my phone and wallet are still there and haven't fallen out somewhere down the road.

 

[Bollo]

I'm confused. Was this

(a) a club ride out for a weekly training run?
(b) riders taking part in a sportive-type ride organised by a local club/bike shop?
(c) riders belonging to a club taking part in a sportive-type event organised by a local club/bike shop?
(d) riders out on a club run who just happened to come across a sportive event by accident?

So...

(a) Have a word.
(b) It's a mixed ability event. Ride considerately and take responsibility for your own safety. It's not a race.
(c) Answer (b) x 10. Just because you're in a club group doesn't give you any special status.
(d) The rider leader should modify the route to avoid the event. Then (a).

Hargroves.

 

[Globalti]

I've tried a couple of clubs and have yet to find one where the ride leader takes proper control and sets the tone of the group's relationship with car drivers, i.e. prevents some muppet from antagonising drivers. In every instance I've been prepared to admit I was inexperienced at club riding and eager to receive advice but nobody ever singled me out or introduced themselves as the leader. One club run actually broke up as riders decided they wanted to do different routes!

 

[Globalti]

There's a difference between asserting your right to road territory and being downright aggressive towards drivers especially when they have just made a bad judgement.

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Quite right, cyclists need to know their place.

Any erratic or irresponsible or unpredictable road use will antagonise any other road user. In that sense, we all have a place, no matter what our vehicle or steed.

 

[derrick]

It takes me about 20secs to know i don't want to be riding behind him or her.Just pass them.

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Why should we tolerate anything less than perfection in other road users? Their bad judgements can kill us.

Welcome to life. There is no perfection. Further, why be intolerant after the fact? A friendly but assertive acknowledgement followed by acceptance of an apology smooths these little bumps out. Life on the road isn't hard. You make it hard.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

An experienced rider who has ridden with Chris Froome can't deal with a fidgety clubman?

 

[mjr]

It was a nightmare "was that a signal, or you moving a bloody gel around your pockets".

And people seemed to question that the BC signals can be confused for that when I mentioned it.

There's a difference between asserting your right to road territory and being downright aggressive towards drivers especially when they have just made a bad judgement.

Trouble is that some drivers seem to think that asserting our right to road territory is being downright aggressive. I've ridden sweeper a few time and will often move up to the right of the penultimate rider through blind bends (often double-white centre lines) and other obstructions where an overtake would put riders in our group at risk and no sane driver would attempt an overtake anyway... the abuse that sometimes results is quite

An experienced rider who has ridden with Chris Froome can't deal with a fidgety clubman?

Maybe he'd be OK with a rider looking continually surprised to find a bike between his legs, but isn't with someone accessing their pockets often? I think Froome usually gets a domestique to pass stuff across? Maybe that's a solution: offer to carry this rider's pocket contents and pass them across when asked

 

[jowwy]

I cant believe that when you go out on a club ride, you have to race like your in a pro peleton.........someone will be stating we need to ride in echelons in the wind next and having swanyers rather than coffee stops.

Get a grip

 

[Yellow Saddle]

I cant believe that when you go out on a club ride, you have to race like your in a pro peleton.........someone will be stating we need to ride in echelons in the wind next and having swanyers rather than coffee stops.

Get a grip

Well, it depends on what the club ride is for. Some clubs have groups who want to race and then yes, it is echelons when need be and pacelines when need be. There is a time and place for all sorts of riding requirements.

That doesn't mean every club ride should cater for granny-gear riders who stop at every garden centre tea garden and blow their noses with lace hankies and bitch about lycra and clipless pedals.

How do you propose people build the skills required for elite-level cycling? By watching TV?

 

[mjr]

That doesn't mean every club ride should cater for granny-gear riders who stop at every garden centre tea garden and blow their noses with lace hankies and bitch about lycra and clipless pedals.

Yeah. Because that's the only alternative to riding pacelines.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

You miss the point of these things. You ride like that even when you are not racing, to practice riding like that for when you are racing. Peloton riding is part of club drill. And as with all groups, there are experienced and not-so-experienced riders. The trick is to have a policy for dealing with this sort of thing and that is discussions and talks, before and after rides. Unfortunately that's apparently too obvious for some people and the problem is never weeded out.

Don't take part in group rides, that are race training sessions, with riders who are not competent?

Take a position of responsibility within the club and help others become competent, understanding the stages of learning, and if they refuse to move from unconscious incompetence to conscious competence weed 'em out?

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Don't take part in group rides, that are race training sessions, with riders who are not competent?

Take a position of responsibility within the club and help others become competent, understanding the stages or learning, and if they refuse to move from unconscious incompetence to conscious competence weed 'em out?

I have not been so confused in a long time. What are you saying? Or are you asking two questions that start with instructions? I don't get it.