Ah yes, I forgot about that. Would have made for an uncomfortable team briefing otherwise
Froome and Wiggins TUEs
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Flying_Monkey
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Indeed not. But does the freedom to speak out make less true? Hardly.
Pro Tour Punditry
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It's all a bit school playground ain't it?
Still.
Still.
Pro Tour Punditry
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I suppose I'll stick this in here rather than the doping git thread...
Wiggins appears to have missed a "whereabouts" test a few months before Rio, and had 2 other missed tests in 2005 and 2009. Which should not be a story. But it is, according to the Daily Mail. And they are probably right, given that he never mentioned it when he's had plenty opportunity, especially when the Armitstead missed tests were being discussed and he voiced his views.
British Cycling must not have tracked down the mole yet...
Wiggins appears to have missed a "whereabouts" test a few months before Rio, and had 2 other missed tests in 2005 and 2009. Which should not be a story. But it is, according to the Daily Mail. And they are probably right, given that he never mentioned it when he's had plenty opportunity, especially when the Armitstead missed tests were being discussed and he voiced his views.
British Cycling must not have tracked down the mole yet...
Linky here (avoiding visit to DM ,which is always a bonus)
oldroadman
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If this kind of rubbish is the best the DM can come up with....oh, hold on, it's the Daily Mail....
Agree to a point. Given all the things that can conspire, missing a single test isn't the end of the world. There's a link on the Grauniad story to a report on a test missed by Froome a la Farah. But as Marms has already pointed out, the problem is the context.
Hont
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There is a hell of a lot of noise around stuff that is within the rules of the sport.
TUE use - not illegal
Tramadol use - not illegal
Transportation of medical supplies - not illegal
Missed tests - not illegal given the frequency
Sky have mismanaged the message - they always do - but it's not the job of the Teams to determine the rules. That's the job of the UCI and WADA.
Can we go back to focusing on Russia's state-sponsored doping program now? Pretty sure that's unethical and illegal.
TUE use - not illegal
Tramadol use - not illegal
Transportation of medical supplies - not illegal
Missed tests - not illegal given the frequency
Sky have mismanaged the message - they always do - but it's not the job of the Teams to determine the rules. That's the job of the UCI and WADA.
Can we go back to focusing on Russia's state-sponsored doping program now? Pretty sure that's unethical and illegal.
smutchin
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With the benefit of hindsight, there appears to be a clue in this comment:
“It’s bloody hard because what happens is you miss one test, they write you a letter, they ask you to explain what happened and you’ve got two weeks to put a case forward,” Wiggins said. “If you ignore that and then you get another one, you end up having crisis meetings.”
It is a bit of a non story though. The whole reason for allowing three missed tests is because it's understood that missing one occasionally is 'just one of those things'.
smutchin
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The great thing about internet forums is that you can have lots of concurrent threads discussing a wide variety of subjects. And if the subject you're interested in isn't being discussed already, it's very easy to start a new thread.
EnPassant
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Anyone have a view on Kittel and Greipels position onTUE's in general and Asthma in particular? (gleaned from a follow up to the above link to the Graun by @Bollo ).
I posted upthread that I don't really get TUE's at all, it appears they don't either. With the proviso of, "Well they wouldn't if they never had to use one".
I posted upthread that I don't really get TUE's at all, it appears they don't either. With the proviso of, "Well they wouldn't if they never had to use one".
smutchin
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Was just about to comment myself along the same lines. I like Kittel but he's not the brightest spark.
The best analogy I can come up with is aggressive tax 'efficiency'. The act isn't illegal, but it is perceived as unfair or at least hypocritical. Given the general acceptance by Joe and Joanna Public that the success of British cycling has been built on pure corinthian foundations, anything that chips away at that image is going to get headlines.
If this story had come out about Nibbles and Astana, it would have been greeted with a shrug and a few comments about that scamp Vino and sticky Skodas.
SWSteve
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Wiggins obviously had knowledge of what happens when you miss a whereabouts as seen in comments about Deignan (as quoted by Smutch earlier). Is this missing a whereabouts a big issue? No, it's not. If anyone thinks it is, Cav has missed at least one - and has been open about that.
This whole saga has been horribly mismanaged by Sky, Wiggins, and BC. They should be speaking out more, and not a week later once the rumours and accusations have stuck.
Why there isn't a PR company who are dealing with this I dont know, as all 3 parties really need some help. If only Wiggins was signed up to a very exclusive agency which had managed sports stars going through personality crises...
This whole saga has been horribly mismanaged by Sky, Wiggins, and BC. They should be speaking out more, and not a week later once the rumours and accusations have stuck.
Why there isn't a PR company who are dealing with this I dont know, as all 3 parties really need some help. If only Wiggins was signed up to a very exclusive agency which had managed sports stars going through personality crises...
