Giro 2018 "contains spoilers"

[Pro Tour Punditry]

No, the word "convicted" actually has meaning. The left-armer opening the bowling for Pakistan at Lord's today is a convicted criminal and cheat, who spent a couple of years in prison for taking a bribe in a Test match. Unless you can point to a criminal trial for Yates, you are as sloppy with your language as you are with the concept of "cheat".

The term convicted does not just refer to being found guilty in a criminal court.

 

[MikeG]

Was he cheating? Was he attempting to gain advantage by doing something against the rules of the sport?

I note you tacitly accept that he hasn't been convicted of anything.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Was he cheating? Was he attempting to gain advantage by doing something against the rules of the sport?

I note you tacitly accept that he hasn't been convicted of anything.

He got banned. He was convicted in that he was found guilty of an offence in contravention of the rules.

 

[cisamcgu]

Was he cheating? Was he attempting to gain advantage by doing something against the rules of the sport?

I note you tacitly accept that he hasn't been convicted of anything.

Of course he was cheating, he was banned for taking performance enhancing drugs - if you cannot accept that that is cheating then there is little point in continuing this discussion.

I don't mind if you don't like the word convicted, banned is just as devastating

 

[MikeG]

He was suspended (not banned) for taking a drug he had every reason to think he was perfectly entitled to take, which he'd taken legally previously, and which was prescribed for him by a doctor. His team doctor admitted failing to submit the correct form, that's all. This was a clerical oversight on the behalf of someone other than Yates, and was not an attempt by Yates to gain advantage. Yes, one has to take responsibility for one's paperwork, but this was not an attempt to gain advantage or circumvent the rules, and was therefore not cheating.

How about you take your crap to the appropriate thread?

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

How about you take your crap to the appropriate thread?

Which thread would that be?

 

[Viking]

I'm disappointed.

I think Pinot was taken to hospital after the stage (exhaustion and respiratory problems) and I guess the medics have advised that he doesn’t start tomorrow. He did look in a very bad way when he imploded during stage 20

 

[cisamcgu]

He was suspended (not banned) for taking a drug he had every reason to think he was perfectly entitled to take, which he'd taken legally previously, and which was prescribed for him by a doctor. His team doctor admitted failing to submit the correct form, that's all. This was a clerical oversight on the behalf of someone other than Yates, and was not an attempt by Yates to gain advantage. Yes, one has to take responsibility for one's paperwork, but this was not an attempt to gain advantage or circumvent the rules, and was therefore not cheating.

How about you take your crap to the appropriate thread?

Well, that is your opinion, but not the opinion of the authorities, who banned him.

And no need to start being abusive

 

[Shortandcrisp]

Just been called a miserable tw*t on the BEEB website for suggesting that I thought it highly likely Chris Froome will have to serve a ban at some point!

Bye the bye, what’s the difference in practical terms between a ban and a suspension?

 

[MikeG]

One is permanent, one is temporary.

 

[MikeG]

..........no need to start being abusive

No need to come into the wrong thread to chuck emotive and misleading terms around. There is a thread for this stuff. Not this one. Don't pollute a thread about a great race with off-topic bilge, and you won't find people reacting with hostility.

 

[cisamcgu]

I said nothing misleading, but I will refrain from pointing out the truth if it upsets you so much .. enjoy your self delusion ..

 

[smutchin]

Pinot has abandoned

He's dead to me.

 

[rich p]

I said nothing misleading, but I will refrain from pointing out the truth if it upsets you so much .. enjoy your self delusion ..

In a statement issued by the sport's governing body, said: "The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) announces today that Simon Yates has been sanctioned with a period of ineligibility of four months for a non-intentional anti-doping rule violation committed on 12 March 2016 (i.e. Presence and Use of the specified prohibited substance Terbutaline).

I think you're guilty of over-egging it, calling him a drug cheat, as if to equate his non-intentional misdemeanour with the likes of Armstrong, Landis and a host of others.
Froome hasn't been found guilty of anything yet, FYI.

 

[rich p]

He's dead to me.

Did you choose the Peanut Pinot as the punditry pick too? Useless French tosser ...