Halfords Bike Hell - Advice Please

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Pale Rider

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Drago

Legendary Member
While the OP is lucky to receive he offer, I feel it would be a blooming cheek if he accepted several hundred quid compensation for muff up of his own making.
 

outlash

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The issue in this thread and about the complaints about Halford in the past is not about the bikes per se but about their build and service. We are talking about the human activity of putting the bike together and servicing it. The bikes and the components that they sell are available elsewhere and not the issue.

I have asked OP to clarify if the drive train came assembled. I know that bar, seat and wheels he assembled which is a common delivery practice. If he assembled the drive train, the liability sits with OP.

They making an offer is quite interesting.

Do you ever read back your posts if only to make them readable?
 

Dirk

If 6 Was 9
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Interestingly I am currently sitting next to someone who used to work in Halfords legal department and who used to deal with their third party claims at County Courts. (My missus).
She dealt with numerous cases such as this one.
She's just read the OP and said that the only redress there might be, would be for an independent expert to examine the bike to determine whether mechanical failure caused the accident. In other words, to prove it was a component fault and not an assembly fault. To get this done properly isn't cheap and involves more than getting the LBS to say that Halfords got it wrong. However, the fact that self assembly was chosen, instead of store assembly, does make it far more difficult (ie.close to impossible) to prove that the fault lies with the retailer.
Best bet, in this case, would be to try to get them to increase the offer on the repair. You might be in for a long, drawn out, and eventually fruitless campaign otherwise.
Unfortunately for the OP Halfords are correct in their stance on this one.
 
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Drago

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It's close to impossible to prove the fault lies with the retailer, for the simple reason the fault does not actually lie with the retailer.

No post build safety check that any prudent engineer would do, clearly no pre ride check that any prudent rider would do. How in the name of The Holy Virgin Sturgeon can it be the retailers fault when the OP opts to assemble it himself, then fail to carry out the safety check which Halfords own YouTube video about bike assembly shows you to do?

An engineer would typically use BESTCOP...

Brakes
Electrics (lights etc)
Steering
Transmission ( effective security and function of derailleur etc)
Chain
Oil
Pressures ( and wear/damage and skewers)

The OP has chosen to take on the role of a cycle mechanic, and had he used the system Cytec ( and MIAS for us instructors) use he would be caught the problem.

Pre ride check...

Air ( pressures, tyre wear and damage)
Brakes
Chain ( check of security and function of the transmission)

Again, a prudent rider would've picked up the same fault on a pre ride check.


The OP has taken on the role of bicycle mechanic, yet has failed to act like one, even though it would've saved him. Ditto, he has failed to act like a sensible, prudent rider riding a bike for the first time, or after is has been left unattended and out of sight. So the OP has been negligent on not one, but two counts, and expects someone else to pay for it? Ridiculous.
 
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Dirk

If 6 Was 9
Location
Watchet
The Halfords offer towards the cost of the repair is purely a goodwill gesture. They don't need to offer anything.
I would suggest the OP takes the offer as it stands.
As a matter of interest, how many on here would think that an independent LBS would make a similar offer in the same circumstances? Not many, I would hazard.
 

Cyclist33

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My point is that the OP himself says he should have known better than to buy a Halfords bike. I suspect that is down to the fact that many, many posts come from the start point that Halfords bikes are crap. They aren't. People are quick to condemn Halfords out of hand, which is grossly unfair and not helpful to a novice. Their bikes, at least their high end stuff, are excellent value for money in terms of componentry and bang for buck. He has bought into that and then excuses his choice of bike by saying he was constrained by the C2W.

Posts tell him then that Halfords bikes are OK as long as you don't let Halfords spanner monkeys anywhere near them. Again, grossly unfair, I know two of the local Halfords mechanics and their knowledge and skill are right up there with LBS staff. In some cases much better.
The usual suspects then say "get someone competent to build it. " which is fine, great advice you'd think, but here's where the OPmcomes unstuck. He sees the bike in a box and wonders just how hard can this be, but now we know it isn't that easy to get right. Personal pride and a bit of macho, and man the provider and doer swings into play. He then chooses to ignore the last bit of the advice which is most crucial.

From here it goes all wrong. We don't know why the damage happened, but the OP is convinced it's down to poor quality components. The thing is, without an expert opinion, it could be several things, but it is not an everyday sort of catastrophe. Mechs and mech hangers don't go hurling themselves into the spokes or wrapping round the frame on their own. From Halfords point of view, the "you built it, it's your problem" is an obvious answer. They have offered to split the bill, quite generously. Talk of taking them to small claims are frankly ridiculous.

I'm no great fan of Halfords by the way. And have seen poor build examples myself, but if the forumites had one good piece of advice, it's lost in a sea of Halfords are shite type threads.

Full of gross generalisations and assumptions and speculations. In this respect your post isn't so different from those of the "forumites" you criticise.
 

Cyclist33

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Location
Warrington
I just like to say something in sympathy to the OP. The last 3 services my folding bike had, there were major, dangerous things left undone. The first two services by people that were unfamiliar with my bike model, they left bolts loose, that could have made the bike fall apart. The 3rd service was done by a shop that knew my bike model well. They didn't leave any bolts untightened, but after replacing chain, derailleur, cassette and back wheel, they never adjusted the hi/lo screws, which could have had disastrous results. So, I started maintaining it myself. There was a fault that I was aware of, but decided was ok. It wasn't. The bike folded on me while riding it, I've broken my clavicle and it's probably going to require surgical intervention. It's no one's fault but mine. It's true that all of the other maintenance errors could have lead to the same result, but they didn't. I'd rather have destroyed a £1000 bike, than done this too myself, but here I am, broken. and no amount money will get me back the way I was, with out a scar or two and at least 6 weeks rest.

You are probably going to have to write this off to experience. At least you weren't (badly?) injured in the failure.

"led".
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
Seriously? My sad tale of a maiming injury, and your answer is to point out a typo (in fact, a homonym)? It was midnight!

A homo-what?

Blimey, hidden depths has this lass.

Strict meaning hat on, I hope you are merely injured and not maimed.

Yours in lexcicography,

PR.
 

KneesUp

Guru
They making an offer is quite interesting.

Why is a retailer offering a goodwill gesture "interesting"? I do it when people break things I sell and (generally) have lost their receipt. If I'm certain it's their fault I sell them the item at cost, and if there is any doubt I give them a free replacement - one customer saying bad things about you as a retailer (regardless of whose 'fault' it is) can be damaging - making a goodwill gesture stops that at little of no cost.

Look at it this way - Halfords made money out of selling the OP the bike. They are using some/all of that profit to reduce the repair bill, so in the end they will make less/nothing/a small loss on the sale but when the OP tells the tale most listeners will think it sounds like Halfords were ok to deal with.

What's "interesting" about that?
 
A homo-what?

Blimey, hidden depths has this lass.

Strict meaning hat on, I hope you are merely injured and not maimed.

Yours in lexcicography,

PR.
Homonym. Words with different meanings/spellings that sound the same. If you pronounce "lead" as in plumbum, it sounds the same as "led" the word I meant.

The other word I meant was "maimed". Currently I have a distinct bump on my shoulder. That may be eventually replaced with a scar - and I don't think this is keyhole surgery. So, my décolletage will never look the same again. Disfigured, hence maimed.

(I asked the ortho specialist who came down to casualty if I'd ever be able to wear a ball gown again. She looked at me as if I was speaking Latin. Not surprisingly, the private surgeon in Wimbledon understood what I meant.)
 
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