middleagecyclist
Call me MAC
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- Prestwich, Manchester
Does not compute.2125434 said:You are Walnuts?
Does not compute.2125434 said:You are Walnuts?
This is an odd one. I was driving 30 years ago and recall nobody leaning on my car at lights. I had a 2cv then, probably a car that invites hands more than most others.
I was also cycling 30 years ago (with rat cages) and do not recall needing to lean on cars. One might hang back and wobble, but not lean on cars.
I think motor cars have been a 'grand consumer fetish item' (your phrase) throughout those thirty years. For some people, but not for most of us.
I believe many car drivers would have objected thirty years ago to cyclists' hands and many still would today. Some might be the same motorists.
The 'road-ragey' aggressive nature of the objection might be a little more fierce these days, but the general ubiquity of objection is probably much as it was.
I agree with you that it's not a 'rights thing'. I'm not sure how it could be. It is a matter of manners. Like holding doors open for people and helping people with prams up steps.
It's not a terrible crime to lean on cars, ignore people following you through a door or let a parent with a pram struggle up steps on the tube.... It's just poor form.
For me it starts and ends with manners.
This is an odd one. I was driving 30 years ago and recall nobody leaning on my car at lights. I had a 2cv then, probably a car that invites hands more than most others.
I was also cycling 30 years ago (with rat cages) and do not recall needing to lean on cars. One might hang back and wobble, but not lean on cars.
I think motor cars have been a 'grand consumer fetish item' (your phrase) throughout those thirty years. For some people, but not for most of us.
I believe many car drivers would have objected thirty years ago to cyclists' hands and many still would today. Some might be the same motorists.
The 'road-ragey' aggressive nature of the objection might be a little more fierce these days, but the general ubiquity of objection is probably much as it was.
I agree with you that it's not a 'rights thing'. I'm not sure how it could be. It is a matter of manners. Like holding doors open for people and helping people with prams up steps.
It's not a terrible crime to lean on cars, ignore people following you through a door or let a parent with a pram struggle up steps on the tube.... It's just poor form.
For me it starts and ends with manners.
...and did he?2125477 said:Sorry. Davy Walnuts stated an intention to do last Fridays ride to Burnham in the guise of a turtle.
I got into the passenger side of my car when my wife was in the driving seat. Trouble was it wasn't my car or my wife. The lady was very surprised but quite understanding. Glad she didn't punch me!Touching will be met with words.
Getting in, uninvited, will be met with fist.
2125493 said:No, of course not. All mouth and no trousers that one.
More fool youI have been giving a lot of thought to this subject.
Apparently, touching a *** does actually damage it in some way, so I guess we're all probably guilty. Hell, I think I damage my own *** almost every day.
I have lent on a police car for balance with no problems.
Had a chat with the fuzz inside, she certainly didn't mind.
I' ll leave it up to you Adrian and associated2125625 said:Don't knock it, it could be great and you could give it a go some time.