He touched my car

[Crosstrailer]

[QUOTE 2126515, member: 9609"]I should have elaborated more; I wasn't suggesting drivers are not capable of thought, more that their thoughts are seldom on the road in front - most people drive on some sort of autopilot. If drivers concentrated as much on their driving as cyclists do on their cycling then accidents rates would plummet.[/quote]

Unfortunately this post is suffering from 'sweeping generalisation disease'

 

[Norm]

Unfortunately this post is suffering from 'sweeping generalisation disease'

Sadly, it is not alone.

 

[SportMonkey]

I think you might need to get some help with that

I'd punch someone for using my pen, by punch we all know this is internet speak for "have a [passive aggressive] word".

That said I use Sheaffer fountain pens, and other people using them ruins the nibs.

 

[Norm]

... and other people using them ruins the nibs.

Oh, dear, that will cause controversy!

 

[SportMonkey]

That's something you don't see on a bike, a good reverse gear.

Fixie rider. Obv.

 

[Crackle]

Actually, it's microfibre towels and lambswool mitts these days.

Really. I've learnt something else then apart from what that hand print is that won't rub off (suntan lotion).

 

[SportMonkey]

[QUOTE 2126515, member: 9609"]I should have elaborated more; I wasn't suggesting drivers are not capable of thought, more that their thoughts are seldom on the road in front - most people drive on some sort of autopilot. If drivers concentrated as much on their driving as cyclists do on their cycling then accidents rates would plummet.[/quote]

The problem here is generalisation.

I can see your point about auto-pilot, but not all drivers are the same. If I can I will use my car to actively protect other non-car road users. This has increased after being knocked off twice. I'd say my concentration is equal on both.

 

[srw]

Reiver's answer was right though. People who drive cars don't think about it by and large,

And thank goodness, by and large, they don't. Driving is far too difficult to be done consciously.

 

[dellzeqq]

Unfortunately this post is suffering from 'sweeping generalisation disease'

that's not a generalisation. That's an estimation. If you don't know the difference, get back to me.

 

[growingvegetables]

[QUOTE 2126515, member: 9609"]I should have elaborated more; I wasn't suggesting drivers are not capable of thought, more that their thoughts are seldom on the road in front - most people drive on some sort of autopilot. If drivers concentrated as much on their driving as cyclists do on their cycling then accidents rates would plummet.[/quote]
Just a cheeky aside - isn't there one other situation where some drivers "forget to think"? Faced with a keyboard?

There's a few too many of "that sort" above, methinks.

 

[simon.r]

So, have we come to any conclusions?

I have been known to change my opinions on subjects after internet debates, but not this time.

If anything it has made me realise how anti-car some people are, for no sensible reason. I can understand people being anti-bad driving, anti-use of cars in certain circumstances and even, to a point, anti-particular types of cars, but the general 'I don't like cars, they're just part of the space I use, therefore it's OK to treat them as I see fit' point of view is really beyond me.

 

[screenman]

I doubt Adrian will answer this question as he has a habit of avoiding them, but can someone tell me what sort of car he drives?

 

[Crosstrailer]

that's not a generalisation. That's an estimation. If you don't know the difference, get back to me.

No, that's a sweeping generalisation.

I would suggest in future before trying to pick people up that you are actually correct before you attempt to do so, as a failed attempt does not reflect well on you.

 

[lukesdad]

I'm not. The threats of violence came from Longshot and Green1. Lukesdad should know that.

Huh ?

 

[Longshot]

I have never owned a car in my life.

That's not what he asked