I don't. The physics is against you. Do you? Perhaps you can enlighten us as to what changes you would make to make it worth using and how.
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I don't. The physics is against you. Do you? Perhaps you can enlighten us as to what changes you would make to make it worth using and how.
Running at 6 minutes a mile - an 'easy' pace at which to run ?
Just what percentage of the population can do that then ?
Most of the population that could propel a bike at 20mph could do it easily.
I started off wearing my buff in the expectation it would be cold but quickly switched to my cotton cycle cap when I realised it wasn't and I would overheat if I carried on with the buff.
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No, that's 670 out of 1000, not out of several hundred million.
The other 200 million (odd) had no issue because they didn't have an fall, as such they are irrelevant. You cant just pick and choose which data you use to support your argument.
so actually all this proves is that falls are very very rare. Which is nice
But hold on, if there were 3000 cycle injury's, 330 of which were head related with helmets... and the remaining 670 were head related without helmets...
...then this suggests head related injury's are twice as likely without a helmet.
was that the point you were making
pubrunner
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I can easily run that - my fastest 100m was 12.4 seconds (Colwyn Bay track - 1995); but that's not the point. Redlight made the (fair) point that we've evolved over millenia to deal with falls'; in an ideal world that might be the case. However, I suspect that the bulk
of the population isn't as fit and agile as you & Redlight; given that (approx.) 25% of the population are obese, I don't believe that they would fall in quite the same manner as you would . . . ie, head not hitting the ground.And many of them would struggle to run 100m in any time, let alone run it in 20 seconds. They'd also have difficulty cycling at 20mph.
But hold on, if there were 3000 cycle injury's, 330 of which were head related with helmets... and the remaining 670 were head related without helmets...
...then this suggests head related injury's are twice as likely without a helmet.
was that the point you were making
I think before you try to play this game you need to understand the difference between numbers and rates. Or perhaps I can interest you in this nice pre-loved Trabant - demonstrably the safest car on the road because no-one has ever been killed driving one in the UK. Fords and Vauxhalls on the other hand are absolute death traps - just look at the numbers killed in them.
pubrunner
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A delicate bloom such as yourself, should move up North; your head would never get too hot ! Gets flippin' cold up here !
Canrider
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What, back in the Palaeolithic?However, I suspect that the bulk
steve52
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i laugh at these helmet threads, they snowball out of controll , but heres my bit, i wear a helmet, has it saved me?, from road rash deff, evidenced by the scrapes and tarmac on the helmet, from a bump on me nogging oh yes , 2 for 2,so far, saved my life? prob not but the first two items do it for me,ps i should add it failed missrable to prevent roadrash to my thigh hip elbow or shoulder,useles bloody thing
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ColinJ
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Offa's Dyke - North? It's only at about the same longitude as Stafford, though definitely north of Somerset!A delicate bloom such as yourself, should move up North; your head would never get too hot ! Gets flippin' cold up here !
pubrunner
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Ever been to Stafford ? - its freezing there.
It certainly gets cold here, though. IIRC, the coldest ever recorded temperature in the UK, was RAF Shawbury - some time back in the 80s. Shawbury is only about 20-25 miles away. Have to say though, it seemed even colder, when I lived in Yorkshire
many years ago.
ColinJ
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I didn't say it wasn't cold, I said it wasn't (very far) north!Ever been to Stafford ? - its freezing there.
jonny jeez
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No no, I'm not playing a game here, nor am I discussing rates, I understand the difference.
What I *am* doing is directly quoting your figures that clearly show that helmeted wearers have 50 percent less head trauma compared to those not wearing lids...am I not?
Out of 1000 head traumas, 600 odd were without lids 300 odd were with.
BUSTED!
I guess I am playing with you a bit
, but only because you are prepared to stand up for your opinion and am doing a good job of stating your case in what i think is a thought provoking, fact driven way (if that's not too patronising). That said, I had to giggle when I read that post .Ultimately, thread jousting apart, it seems that this and most other helmet debates fall into three camps, those who do, those who don't and those who don't care. There doesn't seem to be much reasoning to convince any of us to change position.
I've decided that I shall wear a lid, not because its demonstrably safer (something I have a clearer idea about having read posts from people like yourself...thank you) but because I just cant see any evidence that they hurt.
I understand that I could also take to wearing a wedding cake on my head, as the don't hurt either, but I have no evidence (anecdotal or otherwise ) to suggest that the wearing of wedding cake may be of any (even the tiniest) benefit in the event of a fall.
The only reason I (personally) wont wear one from now on, will be for vanity and from time to time in the future I'm sure that's exactly what I'll do.
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