Hero to Cyclists

[Drago]

Other than a mechanical or road contamination, what would make a solo rider fall off a solo vehicle that wasn't their fault?

 

[KnackeredBike]

Other than a mechanical or road contamination, what would make a solo rider fall off a solo vehicle that wasn't their fault?

Has he ever claimed it wasn't his fault? My impression was that he accepted it was his fault but that he steered into a ditch rather than at cyclists, because in the split second he had to make that decision he thought of all those fragile cyclists rather than that super-hard-wired instinct of self preservation. If he even had the choice.

 

[jefmcg]

[QUOTE 4905480, member: 43827"]None, and that's the point of my response.
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So we have to wait for more details that are never coming? Um, OK, then.
[QUOTE 4905480, member: 43827"]"A bloke rode his motorcycle too fast for his skill level, lost control and crashed"[/QUOTE]
Seems a pretty close paraphrasing of this

“I was heading towards Melton Mowbray, I was coming up to a blind bend so I slowed down but as I slowed down my back wheel skidded and it started to fish tail"

 

[Drago]

Nope, he never claimed it wasn't his fault. That's why its hardly heroic.

 

[Dirk]

Other than a mechanical or road contamination, what would make a solo rider fall off a solo vehicle that wasn't their fault?

Medical condition?
3rd party action?

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

What medical condition makes the back wheel start to skid?

Whatever is the motorcycle equivalent of a lead foot?

 

[Dirk]

What medical condition makes the back wheel start to skid?

Loss of control due to rider passing out / epileptic fit / seizure / cramp / scratching an itch etc., etc.
It's not that hard to understand.

 

[Drago]

Whatever is the motorcycle equivalent of a lead foot?

TFF.

 

[jarlrmai]

Loss of control due to rider passing out / epileptic fit / seizure / cramp / scratching an itch etc., etc.
It's not that hard to understand.

Passing out would have been mentioned in the article, also depending on the reason for passing out this may or may not have been his fault i.e. if it were a a known about preexisting medical condition, same for epileptic fit and seizure. Cramp/Itch are his fault.

 

[Dirk]

Passing out would have been mentioned in the article, also depending on the reason for passing out this may or may not have been his fault i.e. if it were a a known about preexisting medical condition, same for epileptic fit and seizure.

I once skidded to a halt from about 60mph and then fell off my 750 Kawasaki on the Shrewsbury ring road, near Percy Thrower's garden centre.
A pigeon had hit me head on, square in the centre of my visor, and knocked me out momentarily. I remember the hit - like a sledgehammer between the eyes - but can't remember coming to a halt. My missus, who was followiing on her 400 Honda, said I slumped head first onto the clocks, skidded to a halt and then fell off onto the nearside grass verge.

 

[Jackmaster]

A lot of cynics on here!

When you are coming up to a blind corner on your push bike how many of you "I was coming up to a blind bend so I slowed down but as I slowed down my back wheel skidded and it started to fish tail."?

Come on, be honest?!

When you are approaching a blind bend how many of you skid, because you pulled on the back break a bit quick......and then saw something coming the other way - or because you overcooked it....?

Anyone who rides a road bike, motorbike and has read reports of motorcyclists suffering fatal injuries on straight 30MPH roads in built up areas knows the truth....

When anyone who actually sticks to the 30MPH built up limit and can ride a bike reasonably fast you realise how slow this appears in a car or motorbike.

The key sentence here is blind corner and then second corner......

 

[Vapin' Joe]

Has he ever claimed it wasn't his fault? My impression was that he accepted it was his fault but that he steered into a ditch rather than at cyclists, because in the split second he had to make that decision he thought of all those fragile cyclists rather than that super-hard-wired instinct of self preservation. If he even had the choice.

So he lost control of his motorcycle, but was still able to steer it?

Contradiction in terms, there.

 

[Dirk]

Except none of those were put forward, were they? I think if it had been caused by a medical condition that would have been mentioned, don't you?

And as for scratching an itch, that's clearly not a medical condition - and would be an example of the rider being the issue...

Which isn't relevant in this case, is it? I think if he'd been hit by a pigeon that might have been mentioned.

But do keep trying....

Is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?
Give it a rest.

 

[TVC]

I've just come to this. The whole thing doesn't add up to me. He ended up on the wrong side of the road because he screwed up a corner. He is a hero because he didn't hit 'about 12' cyclists, if it had been a bus then nobody would call him a hero.

 

[Jackmaster]

I've just come to this. The whole thing doesn't add up to me. He ended up on the wrong side of the road because he screwed up a corner. He is a hero because he didn't hit 'about 12' cyclists, if it had been a bus then nobody would call him a hero.

From what I read it was the second corner, the first was a blind corner. Maybe I have misread it?

The real shame IMO is that he was on 2 wheels too and the emphasis doesn't seem to be that 2 wheeled bond and how dangerous blind (country - you don't get blind dual carriageway corners do ya? - are)!!

More honesty all round would do everyone on 2 wheels more good. I struggle to see how a fatal accident happened on a 30MPH built up road as it did here locally http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/ne...ter_crash_between_car_and_motorbike_in_Poole/

Lot's of THINK BIKES signs put up afterwards. It would be good if that thought was put into reminding motorists of cyclists. Look at the Strava times on that segment and see whether many of them get anywhere near 30 MPH on that very busy built up road....