glenn forger
Guest
Dunno how many CMs you've been on sabian, I've done a few, there was no rage, people were laughing and tourists were taking photos. The cops on bikes that patrolled the ride were brilliant.
Hit and Runs reported at London Critical Mass.
- Thread starter Sara_H
- Start date
Page may contain affiliate links. Please see terms for details.
mcshroom
Bionic Subsonic
- Location
- Egremont, Cumbria
Re-read your previous post about what contributed to the hit and run.
Re-read your previous post about what contributed to the hit and run.
You were victim blaming, and now are getting annoyed for being pulled up on it.
RedRider
Pulling through
- Location
- Location Embrocation
That can be a positive and assertive message too, it depends how you look at it. You're right about the bad traffic tho. It can take me ten minutes to walk across the road to go to my local shop which is 20 meters away.
Rob3rt
Man or Moose!
- Location
- Manchester
*Yawn*
None as there are none near me that I could reasonably go to, but I wouldn't go anyway. There might not be rage etc at the one you participated in but as we saw in this one people were getting mowed down.
I don't need to re-read it; I know what I wrote. I also wrote that holding traffic up doesn't excuse some dick in a car running you over but then likewise you have no right holding him up either. He just wants to get home to his kids and wife - something we all ask for when some spanner SMIDSY's one of us or squeezes us at a pinch point.
Can't see what the problem is with that - we can't sit here going "But.. but I want to get home safely as well!" then turn around and go "lol u can't go home i'm a crusader for a cause" by holding the same guy up. See it from his point of view - he'll think (wrongly) that all cyclists are like that then pass on that view to somebody innocent by passing them with an inch of room or even knocking them off just because they took primary on a narrow road or whatever.
You can't ask for common courtesy then throw it back in their face. Doesn't work like that. Like I said - pride marches. Gay/bi/trans people all want equality and to be treated as normal people (and rightly so) but then parade around in next to nothing drunk and shagging around on pride marches. You can't ask to be treated exactly the same as everybody else if you're out dressed as a flamingo, shoot faced and wearing a jock strap with a rainbow flag as a cape.
It can be but I just think that doing it by holding up a city of 8 million people isn't really the best way of doing it.
glenn forger
Guest
Blimey!
It's obviously impinged on your conscience and burned itself into your memory, where on earth did you see this striking image that made such an impression on you? You seem to have taken in quite a few details as you gazed, disgustedly.
glenn forger
Guest
Where did you window shop?
A pride march I went on when I was 16, 17ish. Went with a lesbian friend of mine. Not a prude by any stretch but my eyes were certainly opened that day
Anyway, getting off topic. This is about Critical Mass, not my escapades at gay pride marches
I agree. Critical mass will always be spoilt by a few and the actions, highly visible, reinforce the negative stereotypes that car drivers and pedestrians have. I just can't see anything cycling-positive emerging from them.
Why not?
Thanks for that valuable contribution.
glenn forger
Guest
Hopefully he'll keep us up to date on all the other threads he's not interested in?
Well, you can, but 99% of the population just don't well... "get it".
I don't really care what people look like/dress like etc, but see it from the POV of a 65 year old man. Not quite the same opinion
Boris Bajic
Guest
Those who see CM as a positive, inclusive, celebratory thing will continue to see it as that.
Those who see it as a pain in the neck and further proof that cyclists are selfish, self-centred nuicances and road hazards will continue to see it so.
Most people will just have a little smile (or frown) and find it quite sweet that the young people are so keen on their bicycles.
Supporters will cite their own imagined data about its positive effect and decriers will have equal and opposite data. Both will be convincing in the mind s of those who spout them.
In proving its worth largely to its own participants while eliciting the disapproval of many others, CM has yet to get beyond its own slightly onanistic origins.
It is likely it never will, although I am in no position to disapprove of it on those grounds.
Those who see it as a pain in the neck and further proof that cyclists are selfish, self-centred nuicances and road hazards will continue to see it so.
Most people will just have a little smile (or frown) and find it quite sweet that the young people are so keen on their bicycles.
Supporters will cite their own imagined data about its positive effect and decriers will have equal and opposite data. Both will be convincing in the mind s of those who spout them.
In proving its worth largely to its own participants while eliciting the disapproval of many others, CM has yet to get beyond its own slightly onanistic origins.
It is likely it never will, although I am in no position to disapprove of it on those grounds.
Last edited:
