How can you tell if a trend will last or not?

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bpsmith

Veteran
possibly... for those with a team mechanic to check and change the batteries at the end of each ride. For everyone else, they'll realise that they're useless with a flat battery, are far too expensive to replace when damaged and will go back to a gear shifting mechanism that simply works.
How long do you think these batteries last?

When was the last time you damaged your groupset and had to replace whole components?
 
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Indicators, right angled bent cranks, oval chainrings (though there are people who use these) are a some of ideas that never took off, I am sure there must be more, I am surprised gear shifters are still manufactured with indicators (who came up with that one ?) are Midge Bars a trend or a genuine improvement ?

And while I am here and talking of old stuff, if anyone has a Cannondale Caffiene SL with a headshock let me know.
Which headshock is that? I have a short travel switchable headshock on a frame currently stripped of bits - the original bike was the very nice Silk Warrior 1000 - blue thing many folk who used to come on my rides will know.

This.

https://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeSpecs.aspx?item=37110

The Headshock still works - it was serviced not too long before I stripped the frame.

By the by, kinda related to this thread, many of the bits from that bike are now on a bike/frame and bits I paid £30 for - brought it home on a London bus, now my favourite bike :smile:
 

Venod

Eh up
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Which headshock is that? I
Not sure what model headshock, but the bike was a special lightweight from circa 2006/7 it was reviewed in Single track mag back then, I moded my 2008 headshock so I could fit 700c wheels with 30mm tyres it was a flyer on bridleways.
 

marzjennings

Legendary Member
, ...yet the industry no longer makes high quality all-rigid MTB's....

The rigid mtb is back in fashion again and available everywhere, except now they’re called gravel bikes. Looking at some of these bike they have the same geometry my old rigid mtb had 25 years ago. Sometimes a new trend is just an old trend reintroduced.
 
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The rigid mtb is back in fashion again and available everywhere, except now they called gravel bikes. Looking at some of these bike they have the same geometry my old rigid mtb had 25 years ago. Sometimes a new trend is just an old trend reintroduced.
very true. I have a 20 year old hybrid that isn't a million miles from many modern tourers.

the term "gravel bike" still bemuses me - I didn't know there was so much gravel around
 
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swansonj

swansonj

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Re the discussion about how, if you have electric gears, you're stuck if they fail:

How many people eschew brifters in favour of friction downtube levers for the same reason?
 
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Who needs this new fangled interweb thing, who would lose their job if people stopped buying the things you make.
sorry, you can't emotionally blackmail folk into buying stuff they feel they don't need, and which they might feel would make their cycling worse, with threats that they will be chucking someone out of a job.

Next thing you'll be writing ads asking if they would buy electronic gear changing if their dear mama's life depended on it.
 

screenman

Squire
sorry, you can't emotionally blackmail folk into buying stuff they feel they don't need, and which they might feel would make their cycling worse, with threats that they will be chucking someone out of a job.

Next thing you'll be writing ads asking if they would buy electronic gear changing if their dear mama's life depended on it.

Nothing of the sort, it was a genuine question. I am also sorry but I did not guess it was purely cycling related.
 
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Forgive my ignorance, can I ask what sort of batteries these systems use? Can they be swapped over mid-ride? Are they standard cells of any description?
 

bpsmith

Veteran
so long that they'll run out unexpectedly mid ride.

I reckon electric shifting will ultimately be a niche rather than become a lasting trend.
If you do rides of around 750-1,500 miles perhaps. ;)

That’s a Google search showing the range of mileage I found.

If you were to have eTap, then you’re always carrying a spare battery as there’s one on each mech.

People manage to change their Garmin after every ride, so why would they not charge their batteries on eTap or Di2 every so often?
 
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