How do they not see us? 'Cos they ain't bloody-well lookin', that's why!
Lights are on but nobody's home (Gormless Look)
How do they not see us? 'Cos they ain't bloody-well lookin', that's why!
My point is that you can see those who don't wear hi-viz perfectly fine.I'm not sure what point you are making. Of course we remember the near misses more than the other incidents (or should that be "non incidents"?). This thread started off with a question about not being seen by car drivers and surely anything we do to improve our visibility is a help? It won't stop all near misses but it may prevent some. It certainly won't make things worse for us.
But I hate those apple-pie-eating people.But making a reasonable effort to be seen helps ALL other road users, most of whom are skilled, compassionate, home-loving, apple-pie-eating, thoughtful. speed-limit-respecting people.
Lights are on but nobody's home (Gormless Look)
But I hate those apple-pie-eating people.
My point is that you can see those who don't wear hi-viz perfectly fine.
The problem is not that we can't be seen without it but instead that people either don't look for us or we don't register (because of our size not our colour)
+1 - with the added proviso that I wear hi-vis to avoid any fandangling by insurance companies in the event of an accident. That's the real unarguable "safety" factor.I don't like the slippage of standards - it's OK to look quickly and pull out at speed, because it's the cyclist's fault that they didn't have lights on during the daytime, and weren't wearing hiviz.
Just 'king look properly before pulling out. Every time. Or don't pull out. Victim blaming is scum-worthy behaviour.
I don't like the slippage of standards - it's OK to look quickly and pull out at speed, because it's the cyclist's fault that they didn't have lights on during the daytime, and weren't wearing hiviz.
Just 'king look properly before pulling out. Every time. Or don't pull out. Victim blaming is scum-worthy behaviour.
+1 - with the added proviso that I wear hi-vis to avoid any fandangling by insurance companies in the event of an accident. That's the real unarguable "safety" factor.
Quite - that is the only good reason I've ever seen for wearing hiviz, but it still stinks.