Sure, if you want, yeah.
You're mistaking me for someone who actually cares what people claim. I'm not the century police.
(I'd prefer it if you did the maths though, and calculated values for x, n and y. That might be quite interesting)
Nah, I didn't think that you cared what people claim but it was you that answered my question so it was you I quoted. Sorry if it seemed that I was singling you out as the Cressida Dick of the century police and please don't think that my response and questions below are aimed at you
Re. values for
x,
n &
y: I would think that this would require knowing my wattage output during real cycling (which I haven't a clue about) and doing things beyond my ability to work out values to give a wattage output in the same region for on-the-spot "air-cycling" (a bit like "air-guitar"?). Even if I had the ability, I could imagine the validity of the calculations becoming an issue when really they're not. My (badly made) point is that it's not the physical work done that makes riding a bike to be "riding a bike" (whether the number of equivalent miles one attributes to that work is one or a hundred, whether you get a VR screen or not). The training device might be able to replicate the effort of a real bike ride but it is still very much not a real bike ride. Serious question - on these state of the art training machines, do they accurately simulate forces and road traction so that you have to lean round bends and can slide out? If so, can you "feel" reaching the limit? (When I did the flight simulation, the feedback through the screen and the joystick/rudder let you "feel" approaching the limit before a stall - different feedback for different aircraft).
I have some rollers but I rarely use them - I hate using them. I bought them when I was a bit more flush than I am now and had only just got back "into" cycling after many years of short distance commuting and utility rides on a crappy bike. I thought that they would give me the opportunity to build up some fitness over the winter ready for the spring.
I hadn't used rollers before but I had been on exercise bikes before. My experience of the rollers was a mixed bag. I really liked the fact that I had to work at staying upright. I hated the fact that I couldn't slow my cadence right down without falling off (for those that don't know - you have to be spinning to maintain balance). Balancing didn't come naturally - it is different to cycling on a road and I had to learn it. I had a simple bike computer with a front-wheel magnet and fork-mounted sensor and it told me how many "miles" I had done. My average speed was higher than my real-life average. My exercise was very different to real cycling - constant output with no ups, no downs but with several breaks. I could lower my gear to make the effort less and the breaks less frequent but the resistance wasn't realistic (even though I was effectively really riding a real bike but on a moving surface underneath me instead of me moving on a stationary surface). The whole experience was more like using a weight machine in a gym than it was like riding a bike. This is why I hated it and realised that I would rather go out in the rain on the bike for half an hour than get on the rollers.