How to get along with other drivers

[Rob3rt]

When you "read" text, do you just see words that you wish were there?

 

[glenn forger]

Another non-answer.

What "situations" that effect cyclists are you referring to? I assumed you meant accidents, are you saying you didn't mean accidents? What then?

Where's the 97.3% figure from, and what does it refer to?

 

[glenn forger]

The trouble with claiming, with completely false statistics, that it's up to cyclists to avoid situations is that it's simply not true.

In a quarter of fatal cyclist accidents, the front of the vehicle hit the rear of the bicycle. These can be the most deadly RTCs and the cyclist has done nothing wrong, and that's before you even start with drivers on a mobile, drunk or drugged drivers, speeding drivers, drivers jumping red lights.

It's a totally bogus claim and it's distasteful victim-blaming.

 

[Rob3rt]

The trouble with claiming, with completely false statistics, that it's up to cyclists to avoid situations is that it's simply not true.

In a quarter of fatal cyclist accidents, the front of the vehicle hit the rear of the bicycle. These can be the most deadly RTCs and the cyclist has done nothing wrong, and that's before you even start with drivers on a mobile, drunk or drugged drivers, speeding drivers, drivers jumping red lights.

It's a totally bogus claim and it's distasteful victim-blaming.

Bogus, that's a good word, not as good as doofus though! Doofus is 137.4% better!

 

[glenn forger]

Remember that Audi punching clip? Read the comments BTL on the Mail website, all the highest-rated say the cyclist deserved it, people boasted about driving too near cyclists, side-swiping them, deliberately scaring them. Some motoring forums used to contain similar boasts. The cyclist had done nothing wrong, they were just..there.

 

[Linford]

Remember that Audi punching clip? Read the comments BTL on the Mail website, all the highest-rated say the cyclist deserved it, people boasted about driving too near cyclists, side-swiping them, deliberately scaring them. Some motoring forums used to contain similar boasts. The cyclist had done nothing wrong, they were just..there.

I don't get the bit where he chased the car for 1/4 mile to have a full blown rant at the driver after he had a dig at them for encroaching in the ASL. ..Can you explain the justification in chasing them down ? I'm not sure if the cyclist was winding up to use an airzound or removing the cars mirror...he came across as very confrontational and unduly aggressive.

If the rider hadn't started yelling at the Audi in the first place, they may have not been so keen off the lights when they changed....I very much doubt that all the commentators were drivers. I can see fault on both sides...I am not blinded by bias

 

[glenn forger]

My point was nothing to do with the driver who nearly crushed the cyclist's foot and ran a red light, it was that a lot of people boasted publicly about threatening cyclists who had done


nothing


wrong.

That's why rob3rt's unable to back up his claim, he invented a bogus statistic to attack cyclists with.

 

[Linford]

My point was nothing to do with the driver who nearly crushed the cyclist's foot and ran a red light, it was that a lot of people boasted publicly about threatening cyclists who had done


nothing


wrong.

That's why rob3rt's unable to back up his claim, he invented a bogus statistic to attack cyclists with.

So do you think that this episode with the aggressive London cyclist has done the rest of us any favours ?

 

[Rob3rt]

My point was nothing to do with the driver who nearly crushed the cyclist's foot and ran a red light, it was that a lot of people boasted publicly about threatening cyclists who had done


nothing


wrong.

That's why rob3rt's unable to back up his claim, he invented a bogus statistic to attack cyclists with.

You have me sussed right out.

 

[glenn forger]

So do you think that this episode with the aggressive London cyclist has done the rest of us any favours ?

You think Henri Paul has let down all drivers for killing Diana?

 

[snorri]

My experience with a driver today.
There I was pootling along on a beautiful morning, not at all cold for February, no wind, just minding my own business. Then this car overtook me at a speed appropriate to the conditions and giving me adequate clearance. He was only a 100 metres clear of me when he pulled in to a layby on his left. I caught up just as the elderly driver was getting out of the car and gave him a hand to change his punctured wheel, we didn't shout at all and he thanked me as we parted, it's given me a warm glow.

 

[Linford]

You think Henri Paul has let down all drivers for killing Diana?

What I'm concerned about is that public perception will be influenced by the agression shown, and that the rider chose to put himself up against the car (twice) to do something which was not his job to do...police the roads.

I wonder if he will be so brave next time he sees a car in the ASL ?

 

[Rob3rt]

My experience with a driver today.
There I was pootling along on a beautiful morning, not at all cold for February, no wind, just minding my own business. Then this car overtook me at a speed appropriate to the conditions and giving me adequate clearance. He was only a 100 metres clear of me when he pulled in to a layby on his left. I caught up just as the elderly driver was getting out of the car and gave him a hand to change his punctured wheel, we didn't shout at all and he thanked me as we parted, it's given me a warm glow.

I consider this proof positive that if you aren't a cock end, 97.3% of the time, you will get on with drivers.

 

[sazzaa]

What's this Audi clip everyone's banging on about? I was on hols last week so presume I missed something?

 

[Shaun]

What's this Audi clip everyone's banging on about? I was on hols last week so presume I missed something?

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/cyclist-wanted-threads-merged.148026/

But can we get back to the OPs topic now please ...

... could offer some tips on avoiding conflict and promoting safe and happy cycling for all?