How to get along with other drivers
- Thread starter Garethgas
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Brandane
The Costa Clyde rain magnet.
So just because GG is new to CC, he can't possibly know anything about cycling then? Perhaps he has been cycling a very long time and doesn't bother with forums (not a bad idea).
Welcome to the CC forum Gareth, hugs and kisses, User13710 x.
glenn forger
Guest
He says he's been cycling for fifty years and never had an incident? That amazes me, unless he does a mile a year?
400bhp
Guru
Just ride yer ferkin bike.
Primary, secondary, gutter. Whatever.
Become traffic, make cycling normal.
I must go back to a car forum and ask about road positioning on there.
Man, we worry far too much about what others think.
Follow advanced driving - concentrate on your own safety, the rest will follow.
Primary, secondary, gutter. Whatever.
Become traffic, make cycling normal.
I must go back to a car forum and ask about road positioning on there.
Man, we worry far too much about what others think.
Follow advanced driving - concentrate on your own safety, the rest will follow.
400bhp
Guru
Cos it doesn't exist.
Roadrider48
Voice of the people
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Just ride....
The issue of primary/secondary is a little tricky as it depends on your cycling route.
There are indeed parts
Funny that you say that, because I too don't get any hassle off motorists. Perhaps some people are just a bit more clued up, have a better attitude and more relaxed about their riding than others?
It speaks volumes that some are so familiar with conflict.
Judging by the mentality of some, it's not surprising that there's so many confrontations going on, especially when I'm criticised for simply trying to encourage others not to follow suit. I suspect that if these people will still be having bad rides in their later years (if they live that long).
There are indeed parts
Funny that you say that, because I too don't get any hassle off motorists. Perhaps some people are just a bit more clued up, have a better attitude and more relaxed about their riding than others?
It speaks volumes that some are so familiar with conflict.
Judging by the mentality of some, it's not surprising that there's so many confrontations going on, especially when I'm criticised for simply trying to encourage others not to follow suit. I suspect that if these people will still be having bad rides in their later years (if they live that long).
The issue of primary/secondary is a little tricky as it depends on your cycling route.
There are indeed parts
There are indeed parts
If you find my posts patronising, why not make a constructive contribution that may help others less experienced than yourself, instead of pretending that you have some kind of rank here just because you've been here longer?
swansonj
Guru
I think there is a debate still be had about how often, when taking primary, to inconvenience oneself by pulling over to allow motor vehicles to overtake.
On my commute, there's a mile and a half stretch of single carriageway A road where I often take primary. But even though, objectively, I probably only delay motorists by a minute or two, that still feels like a long way to be holding up other road users. So I know where the side turnings are that don't have dangerous lips, and I will often ease up and pull over into one of them at least once and sometimes twice on that mile and a half, particularly if there's a bus or lorry behind. Or I will ease into the gutter for a bit to let cars past.
On my commute, there's a mile and a half stretch of single carriageway A road where I often take primary. But even though, objectively, I probably only delay motorists by a minute or two, that still feels like a long way to be holding up other road users. So I know where the side turnings are that don't have dangerous lips, and I will often ease up and pull over into one of them at least once and sometimes twice on that mile and a half, particularly if there's a bus or lorry behind. Or I will ease into the gutter for a bit to let cars past.
Linford
Guest
If I feel that a car cannot pass safely given the width of the road and oncoming traffic, I will move out in to the primary. When approaching a traffic island, I will always take the primary..when I am passed it, I will take the secondary. I never ride in the gutter...either on the cycle,motorcycle or in the car... too much debris, too many drains. My secondary position is about 1ft out from the edge of the drains...or depression around them.
swansonj
Guru
I think the debate comes from my, for one, not really knowing how often I should pull over to allow overtakes. Every time there's a car behind would be excessive in one direction; the whole (in my case) mile and a half would be excessive in the other direction. I'll bet different cyclists have different opinions.
Mugshot
Cracking a solo.
Its confidence and the absolute understanding that you have an absolute right to be on the road. It's very easy for cyclists new and old to assume that they are a hinderance to faster moving vehicles and that because of that they should metaphorically doff a cap and tug a forelock to them. It can take a bit of persuasion and an about turn in attitude to put yourself further into the road whether secondary or primary, you're closer to the danger, you're holding people up, people will be annoyed with you and so on, but once you're there you soon start to see the advantages. The vast majority of drivers aren't out to get you, they just need reminding that just because there's a gap they don't have to go for it and a confident, assertive but inclusive use of the roads very rarely results in beeping and abuse.
