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Pale Rider

Legendary Member
Although I am not in total agreement with the chap you met but there have been times when I have been out cycling and have seen riders wearing all black cycling gear plus a black bike. I call it "stealth mode!" It may be alright for fighter planes but cyclist's need to be more conspicuous. Some bright colours would help. If you think about it motorcyclist's were in a similar situation to cyclist's by not being seen and adopted the idea of riding with their headlights on.

A 'like' for the sentiment if not the apostrophe abuse.

The nearest I've come to wiping out a roadie was driving behind one in stealth mode riding through a road with tree cover.

The dappled shade and his no doubt very smart grey/black outfit made him all but invisible until I was dangerously close to his back wheel.

A splash of colour would have made a difference.
 

Twizit

CS8 lead out specialist
Location
Surrey
Although I am not in total agreement with the chap you met but there have been times when I have been out cycling and have seen riders wearing all black cycling gear plus a black bike. I call it "stealth mode!" It may be alright for fighter planes but cyclist's need to be more conspicuous. Some bright colours would help. If you think about it motorcyclist's were in a similar situation to cyclist's by not being seen and adopted the idea of riding with their headlights on.

A 'like' for the sentiment if not the apostrophe abuse.

The nearest I've come to wiping out a roadie was driving behind one in stealth mode riding through a road with tree cover.

The dappled shade and his no doubt very smart grey/black outfit made him all but invisible until I was dangerously close to his back wheel.

A splash of colour would have made a difference.

So I assume you're both also against black cars, motorcycles, vans, lorries etc being allowed on the road for similar reasons?
 
Exdept that research by Suzuki demonstrate that daytime running of normal headlights actually increased a motorcyclists chances of getting wiped out - what seems sensible actually rarely is. Only dim-dip, or appropriate low wattage lighting should be used during daylight.
I do not like it when motorcyclist's ride around on main beam especially now that headlight bulbs are a lot brighter.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I do not like it when motorcyclist's ride around on main beam especially now that headlight bulbs are a lot brighter.

Indeed. They think it makes them safer, but to an oncoming observer the bright light breaks up the riders outline. The human brain calculates the speed on an oncoming objects by the rate at which it's size increases in relation to its background, and breaking up their outline deprives the observers brain of the necessary datum required to make an accurate calculation. Hence Suzuki discovered that's why they were actually more likely to get smacked, not less. From this research came proper low wattage daytime marker lights and dim-dip systems.

Every time I see a motorbike with its normal headlights on, or a cyclists with stupid bright lights, during the daytime I think back on this, and thank my lucky stars that I'm not into knee-jerk safety reactions. If I do something in the name of safety, I do so because there's a reasonable weight of evidence proving it's efficacy. I do not do so based upon lore, 'common sense', or the word of Ill educated strangers in the street. The British Government and the EU would both do well to take the same approach.
 

Twizit

CS8 lead out specialist
Location
Surrey
I do not like it when motorcyclist's ride around on main beam especially now that headlight bulbs are a lot brighter.
Motorcyclists have no choice in this - headlights permanently hard wired on and can't be switched off (unless we're talking main beam which obvs can) - been that way for at least 12 years now on all new bikes
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
I've had similar, latterly from other people on bikes, and I tell them to fark off.
However, the words that come out of my mouth turn out to be "Mind your own business".
 

Speicher

Vice Admiral
Moderator
It makes one more conspicuous. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to lessen the tendency for other road users to run you over - motorised fools run you over because of their stupidity and inappropriate behaviour, not because they didn't see you.

I would have condensed that explanation to a 2 word reply, reattached my monacle, and carried on.

Would you also raise your eyebrows in a quizzical manner, and glance sideways at him?
 
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tommaguzzi

Über Member
Location
County Durham
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He said " that's really nice hi-viz that you are wearing "

At first I only heard the " really nice " bit so stopped and thought he wanted to talk about the electric conversion I fitted to the bike( quite a few do).
The he repeated "really nice hi-viz you are wearing" in a sacastic voice.
So i told him to do one and rode off.

 
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