Andy in Germany
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We get regular updates and worldwide it is roughly the ratio I mentioned. There is some debate as to why the UK shows such a discrepancy.
I dont understand some cyclist
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We get regular updates and worldwide it is roughly the ratio I mentioned. There is some debate as to why the UK shows such a discrepancy.
Perhaps in several millennia humans will have evolved such as there will be no need for separate sexes and we will be one humanoid, neither male not female and reproduction of our kind it will all take place in a laboratory test tube. We will probably not be cycling either.
Actually, in one of my (yet unpublished) novels I have a future where beings which were once recognized as humankind have evolved so that physical bodies are no longer necessary and the occupants of planets are intellectual beings only. Which is actually what I imagine aliens must have evolved to be if they have the capacity to journey to this planet.
Actually, in one of my (yet unpublished) novels I have a future where beings which were once recognized as humankind have evolved so that physical bodies are no longer necessary and the occupants of planets are intellectual beings only. Which is actually what I imagine aliens must have evolved to be if they have the capacity to journey to this planet.
Alex321
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- South Wales
That is simply false. Men are the victims of violent crimes far more often than women. And surprisingly, more women get arrested for commiting violent crimes than men.
Sexual offences, yes, women are far more likely to be victims, and men far more likely to be the perpetrators. But non-sexual violent offenmces are far more common than sexual offences.
https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...men-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2023-html
I suppose we can all agree that women who are victims of violent and or sexual assault are most likely not to report the same, considering the unequal treatment they might expect to receive from the Criminal Justice System. Growing up, there were a number of women who were routinely beaten by their husbands after the pubs closed who never spoke a word about it, but neighbours knew.
Alex321
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- South Wales
No matter what follows it, that is simply false. I don't think there is any subject on which we ALL agree.
In this particular case, I don't think I even agree.
I have to say, Alex, you do sound awfully confused, but then you say you are from Wales, so....
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PaulSB
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- Chorley, Lancashire
I agree and I don't let these things inhibit me. With the u3a I try, but don't always succeed, to follow the guidance. This is mainly because I hold a fairly senior role in our little organisation.
In every other aspect I simply get on with life. As a general rule I prefer female company over male and actively seek it out. I remember once having a conversation with a woman and commented it pleased me she and others are happy to be in my company. "You're not a threat" was the simple answer. I took that as a big compliment.
The reason is female conversation is generally more interesting than male. Many men, in my experience, when the relationship is casual, chat about little more than sport, music, etc. women chat about a much wider range of interests.
Alex321
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- South Wales
I have to say, Alex, you do sound awfully confused, but then you say you are from Wales, so....
What was "confused" about that post?
You said you think we can all agree on something. I dispute that we EVER "all agree" on something that isn't indisputable fact (and even then you get the flat earthers and similar).
Then I add that the particular something you were expecting us all to agree on is something I'm not at all sure I do agree with you on.
I have to admit, men for the most part are really boring, conceited buggers! Except confused Alex321 from South Wales.
wow this thread got really dark quickly 
look I know its a tricky topic, and Im acutely aware as more often than not a lone female rider,without the option to call for backup or help, Ive got to be self reliant to fix any issues I have, so I do pack enough tools/spares to fix the most common of problems, and for protection too, and more importantly can use them as well.
And yes, I know chances are if anyone does come past and sees me struggling to get a tyre off a rim, and this is where marathons arent always the great idea that they seem at the time, theyre 90% likely to be a bloke too, but most blokes certainly in a cycling context Ive met are ok, there are a few who are a bit odd, but I still think theyre mostly harmless overall, Ive never felt threatened in that specific way that youre all talking about.
But I know male friends who have asked about this, because they had stopped to help another lone female cyclist at the side of the road partly because theyd hope other cyclists would do the same for me, its that cycling karma thing. but it was all like did they do the right thing, because they were aware it felt very awkward, partially due to the age difference, but also the interaction they were having was just awkward, but this girls back wheel had kept locking up and kicking her bike out sideways and she was joining a very busy road so it was actually really dangerous for her to continue riding like that, no idea if it was brakes or gears or what was causing it, but they couldnt really fix it roadside and the problem wasnt obvious enough to fix, so she carried on, but my friend basically went well I now cant follow the same route even though thats my way home, so he rode a deliberately much longer different diversion route just so she wouldnt feel he was following her, and then kind of wished he hadnt bothered stopping in the first place.
yet fwiw Id still rather people called out and asked if I wanted help, they dont have to stop at all, but then its down to me to decide if I want their help, its not then about them making that choice for me.
Because there was this instance once where my chain snapped, and my foot slipped off the pedal (before I went clipless) and I raked the front chainring down the back of my calf, and so Im at the side of the road, bike upside down (yes I know) my leg is covered in blood, only a graze rather than a deep cut but there was alot of blood still, Ive got the bits to fix the chain (always carry spare quick links) and can do the job myself.
but Im very obviously hurt, in a bit of distress, which is making it all alot harder to fix, and I was passed by like at least 5 cyclists, all male, but not one of them even acknowledged my existence, let alone checked if I was alright. For sure Id have no doubt gone yep Im perfectly fine, had they asked, but it was just you know that human interaction that I wanted to be recognised, given that option to refuse, and not be ignored.
look I know its a tricky topic, and Im acutely aware as more often than not a lone female rider,without the option to call for backup or help, Ive got to be self reliant to fix any issues I have, so I do pack enough tools/spares to fix the most common of problems, and for protection too, and more importantly can use them as well.
And yes, I know chances are if anyone does come past and sees me struggling to get a tyre off a rim, and this is where marathons arent always the great idea that they seem at the time, theyre 90% likely to be a bloke too, but most blokes certainly in a cycling context Ive met are ok, there are a few who are a bit odd, but I still think theyre mostly harmless overall, Ive never felt threatened in that specific way that youre all talking about.
But I know male friends who have asked about this, because they had stopped to help another lone female cyclist at the side of the road partly because theyd hope other cyclists would do the same for me, its that cycling karma thing. but it was all like did they do the right thing, because they were aware it felt very awkward, partially due to the age difference, but also the interaction they were having was just awkward, but this girls back wheel had kept locking up and kicking her bike out sideways and she was joining a very busy road so it was actually really dangerous for her to continue riding like that, no idea if it was brakes or gears or what was causing it, but they couldnt really fix it roadside and the problem wasnt obvious enough to fix, so she carried on, but my friend basically went well I now cant follow the same route even though thats my way home, so he rode a deliberately much longer different diversion route just so she wouldnt feel he was following her, and then kind of wished he hadnt bothered stopping in the first place.
yet fwiw Id still rather people called out and asked if I wanted help, they dont have to stop at all, but then its down to me to decide if I want their help, its not then about them making that choice for me.
Because there was this instance once where my chain snapped, and my foot slipped off the pedal (before I went clipless) and I raked the front chainring down the back of my calf, and so Im at the side of the road, bike upside down (yes I know) my leg is covered in blood, only a graze rather than a deep cut but there was alot of blood still, Ive got the bits to fix the chain (always carry spare quick links) and can do the job myself.
but Im very obviously hurt, in a bit of distress, which is making it all alot harder to fix, and I was passed by like at least 5 cyclists, all male, but not one of them even acknowledged my existence, let alone checked if I was alright. For sure Id have no doubt gone yep Im perfectly fine, had they asked, but it was just you know that human interaction that I wanted to be recognised, given that option to refuse, and not be ignored.
So often when I ask a person on the side of the road who has the wheel off if they need help I get the reply "do you have a spare tube". If I say yes, and ask if they have any levers, I get a similar reply. It is really incumbent on cyclists to carry spares and tools and practice before setting off using them. Many shops give classes so there is no excuse. Relying on others to save us really is unforgivable.
