Discussion in 'General Cycling Discussions' started by MilkRace, 2 Feb 2018.
Built em yourself eh ?
The most expensive used bike I own cost me £20, two were less, and the skip ones were FOC as you rightly say. The reason I say £50 as a round figure, is no matter how cheaply a used bike was acquired, you invariably end up spending something on it in terms of things like tyres, tubes, brake bits, paint, as the sort of bikes that cost peanuts have usually been neglected and/or laid up for many years in someone's shed. You aren't going to be riding such a bike home from the vendor! They tend to be cheap because either they are not currently fashionable (such as old, full-size frame rigid MTB's), or because the seller can't be bothered with doing any repairs and parts replacement jobs and the bike has faults. I think the C2W scheme is the root cause of many old cheap "station bikes" being replaced by taxpayer-subsidised new ones, and ending up dumped or punted out for a song.
My argument for more fitness from a heavier bike is simple; all things being equal more energy is expended in forward motion. I've never argued that a heavy bike was as easy to propel as a light one, what I said is that the differences in average speed are not going to be that great (assuming similar rider position and tyre fitment etc), because the overall combined rider/bike weight difference is only a few percent of the total and the aerodynamic advantage of a skinny road bike is negligible at typical speeds. My steel pub bike, which is about 35 lbs and still shod with knobbly MTB tyres as found, IS going to give me more of a workout per mile than your light road bikes ever would, but a lot of that is tyres not just weight. You will be able to ride further and faster than me no question about it, but I am never going to be a very high mileage rider, regardless of the type of bike used. For relatively short local journeys, a bike that requires a bit of effort to ride is not a big disadvantage, as the range limitations of the rider aren't a factor. Your approach to bike riding is clearly performance-oriented; mine is simply about general utility transport combined with some non-competitive, non-timed, recreation.
That’s kind of my point @SkipdiverJohn. Everything you state above suggests that you’re on the right bike. Everything I stated about my riding suggests I am on the right bike. Which isn’t a £5k bike, at least not with the deals that I have found along the way.
The important thing is that we respect each other’s reasons and accept that the same doesnt always fit others.
What we do have in common is applying some form of value for money approach. I also take pride in finding amazing deals, so we’re not far off in that respect, albeit that your deals are significantly cheaper.
Needs a white saddle
In the mid-50's I used to pass a cycle shop in Sidcup High Street, on my way to school. I think the shop was called Argent's.
For a long, long, time they had a Dawes displayed in the window, bright yellow.
My, I did lust after that bike! Never got it, though.
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