Idiots on bikes

[earlestownflya]

good old landrover man

 

[shouldbeinbed]

Ha! That answers the question of why that nobber slammed me to the kerb wirh his Landrover tonight. He's been reading this thread!

Did you have lights on?

If so you clearly provoked him by letting him see you.

 

[mickle]

To be fair I was riding a midnight blue bike, wearing a black coat and a camo hat. I'm such a nobber.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

Generally if it's cloudy/rainy it's darker than bright sunshine......

Who mentioned bright sunshine?

 

[Bollo]

I wear black on the outside, because black is how I feel on the inside.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Some of you guys....... You crack me up.........
And we wonder why cyclists are dispised by many motorists......

The last lobotomised shitlark to run me off the road did it in broad daylight whilst I had my lights on.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Well, yes: he made it across the road without causing a multi car pile up - amazingly, given so many Porsches on the road it was practically shark-infested waters.

So I went over and shot him in the face.

I could be wrong but I thought I saw a look of relief, albeit briefly.

It was a kindness. A mercy killing. Quicker and cleaner than the otherwise inevitable outcome.

 

[mick1836]

Guy on a bike just now, all black gear, no lighting whatsoever, every other road user has lights of some discription on (as they are needed)........bellend.

Bet he's one of these?

But hey, if you are a car driver and hit one it's YOUR fault because despite you cannot see them you SHOULD have seen them.

 

[Justinslow]

Who mentioned bright sunshine?

Certainly not me mate, as it was cloudy/dull and definitely not bright.
Honestly, if you can't tell the difference between different tones of daytime "brightness" and when it is necessary to use illumination, you should be considering your position as a road user.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

Certainly not me mate

Wrong.

Have a read of what you've written previously.

You're trying to muddy the waters with hypothetical and false equivalencies.

 

[Bollo]

Hay, it's 8:00am so there's a good chance I'm sober. @Justinslow, you may have noticed that your OP has taken a little incoming. Here's why.

Today I'll drive to work; a 16 mile journey along the A34 and A303. During that journey I'll see at around 10 drivers exceeding the speed limit by at least 15mph. I'll more than likely be dangerously tailgated at least once. I'll see, on average, two people on their mobiles. I could come home and start a post with the title "I saw an idiot in a vehicle", but I'd be starting a new thread on the same topic every single day. And that would get boring.

Threads like these usually have the assumption, sometimes explicitly stated, that the offending cyclist somehow shames the great tribe of all cyclists. This is textbook out-group thinking. This TRL report has done the rounds on CC a few times over the years, but it's still worth a read. Summarising, an in-group will always regard any negative behaviour, however uncommon, by a member of an out-group as typical of that group, while excusing common negative behaviours within the in-group as exceptional or atypical. I give you 'the otherwise law-abiding motorist' coming to a magistrates near you today. In the end, "what people think" says more about them than it does the target of their thinking.

As Cain said in that great slasher potboiler The Old Testament, "Am I my brother's keeper?". Just because someone rides a bike, it doesn't mean we're BFFs. If they choose to put themselves in harms way by riding carelessly, RLJing or going into stealth mode, there's feck all I can do. Unlike driving, at least cycling is usually democratic enough that idiot behaviour only rewards it's perpetrator.

So I'm not going to flagellate myself because you've seen a Ninja.

 

[oldstrath]

Hay, it's 8:00am so there's a good chance I'm sober. @Justinslow, you may have noticed that your OP has taken a little incoming. Here's why.

Today I'll drive to work; a 16 mile journey along the A34 and A303. During that journey I'll see at around 10 drivers exceeding the speed limit by at least 15mph. I'll more than likely be dangerously tailgated at least once. I'll see, on average, two people on their mobiles. I could come home and start a post with the title "I saw an idiot in a vehicle", but I'd be starting a new thread on the same topic every single day. And that would get boring.

Threads like these usually have the assumption, sometimes explicitly stated, that the offending cyclist somehow shames the great tribe of all cyclists. This is textbook out-group thinking. This TRL report has done the rounds on CC a few times over the years, but it's still worth a read. Summarising, an in-group will always regard any negative behaviour, however uncommon, by a member of an out-group as typical of that group, while excusing common negative behaviours within the in-group as exceptional or atypical. I give you 'the otherwise law-abiding motorist' coming to a magistrates near you today. In the end, "what people think" says more about them than it does the target of their thinking.

As Cain said in that great slasher potboiler The Old Testament, "Am I my brother's keeper?". Just because someone rides a bike, it doesn't mean we're BFFs. If they choose to put themselves in harms way by riding carelessly, RLJing or going into stealth mode, there's feck all I can do. Unlike driving, at least cycling is usually democratic enough that idiot behaviour only rewards it's perpetrator.

So I'm not going to flagellate myself because you've seen a Ninja.

Shame there's not a 'many likes' button. Thank you for having the patience to articulate this, when most of us would rather just point and laugh.

 

[Tin Pot]

Bet he's one of these?

But hey, if you are a car driver and hit one it's YOUR fault because despite you cannot see them you SHOULD have seen them.

One of the seven cyclists I can count, but you can't see?

There's this new thing called Specsaver.

Give it a shot...

 

[Subotai72]

Some of you guys....... You crack me up.........
And we wonder why cyclists are dispised by many motorists......

@Justinslow I think a list of suitable Topics for the resident d*cks posted as a Sticky might be a good idea....but then they'd probably not have anything/anyone to jump all over or talk about

 

[Justinslow]

Hay, it's 8:00am so there's a good chance I'm sober. @Justinslow, you may have noticed that your OP has taken a little incoming. Here's why.

Today I'll drive to work; a 16 mile journey along the A34 and A303. During that journey I'll see at around 10 drivers exceeding the speed limit by at least 15mph. I'll more than likely be dangerously tailgated at least once. I'll see, on average, two people on their mobiles. I could come home and start a post with the title "I saw an idiot in a vehicle", but I'd be starting a new thread on the same topic every single day. And that would get boring.

Threads like these usually have the assumption, sometimes explicitly stated, that the offending cyclist somehow shames the great tribe of all cyclists. This is textbook out-group thinking. This TRL report has done the rounds on CC a few times over the years, but it's still worth a read. Summarising, an in-group will always regard any negative behaviour, however uncommon, by a member of an out-group as typical of that group, while excusing common negative behaviours within the in-group as exceptional or atypical. I give you 'the otherwise law-abiding motorist' coming to a magistrates near you today. In the end, "what people think" says more about them than it does the target of their thinking.

As Cain said in that great slasher potboiler The Old Testament, "Am I my brother's keeper?". Just because someone rides a bike, it doesn't mean we're BFFs. If they choose to put themselves in harms way by riding carelessly, RLJing or going into stealth mode, there's feck all I can do. Unlike driving, at least cycling is usually democratic enough that idiot behaviour only rewards it's perpetrator.

So I'm not going to flagellate myself because you've seen a Ninja.

That's a good post, I like it and take it on board.
I think what struck me was the guys overal "look" - pro looking dude, nice (black) drop bar bike, nice looking dark kit, expensive looking dark helmet, dark panniers and not a (cheap) light in sight, in gloomy conditions on a national speed limit country road. That is all.
I take your point about cretinous drivers, but given this forum is directed towards cyclists thought it was worthy of mention.
I wouldn't ordinarily mention cretinous driving on this forum, like you I see it all the time. However apart from kids in towns riding in stealth I rarely see stealth cyclists on the open road and find it foolish in the extreme particularly from someone who "looked" like he should have known better. Just my opinion.