Idiots on bikes

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Justinslow

Justinslow

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Poor analogy, the onset of daylight generally is not as localised as a wet cloud.
Depending on which way the wind is blowing the front of my house can be dripping wet while the back is dry.
This is what you said and you are questioning whether the rider needed lights in the first place. What I am saying is how do you know what the light conditions were like in this part of Suffolk at that time? How far had the guy ridden in even darker conditions before I passed him?
This morning was a lot brighter at the same time.
 

earlestownflya

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Certainly not me mate, as it was cloudy/dull and definitely not bright.
Honestly, if you can't tell the difference between different tones of daytime "brightness" and when it is necessary to use illumination, you should be considering your position as a road user.
you're on the money,justin..these planks shouldn't be on the road.The reason they have these near misses with vehicles is because they can't ride,piss weak little boys who can't hold a straight line on a bike.:okay:
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
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Hay, it's 8:00am so there's a good chance I'm sober. @Justinslow, you may have noticed that your OP has taken a little incoming. Here's why.

Today I'll drive to work; a 16 mile journey along the A34 and A303. During that journey I'll see at around 10 drivers exceeding the speed limit by at least 15mph. I'll more than likely be dangerously tailgated at least once. I'll see, on average, two people on their mobiles. I could come home and start a post with the title "I saw an idiot in a vehicle", but I'd be starting a new thread on the same topic every single day. And that would get boring.

Threads like these usually have the assumption, sometimes explicitly stated, that the offending cyclist somehow shames the great tribe of all cyclists. This is textbook out-group thinking. This TRL report has done the rounds on CC a few times over the years, but it's still worth a read. Summarising, an in-group will always regard any negative behaviour, however uncommon, by a member of an out-group as typical of that group, while excusing common negative behaviours within the in-group as exceptional or atypical. I give you 'the otherwise law-abiding motorist' coming to a magistrates near you today. In the end, "what people think" says more about them than it does the target of their thinking.

As Cain said in that great slasher potboiler The Old Testament, "Am I my brother's keeper?". Just because someone rides a bike, it doesn't mean we're BFFs. If they choose to put themselves in harms way by riding carelessly, RLJing or going into stealth mode, there's feck all I can do. Unlike driving, at least cycling is usually democratic enough that idiot behaviour only rewards it's perpetrator.

So I'm not going to flagellate myself because you've seen a Ninja.

Is there some way of automating this post to be the reply to all future threads about ninjas, RLJ or similar collective responsibility bollocks?

GC
 
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Justinslow

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But, assuming they are idiots (and that assumption is another issue), it's the idiots that need talking to, not other people who happen to use the same form of transport.
One would hope that they may read forums such as this, and change their ways?
 
They were just standing around with blank eyes waiting for some concerned citizen to step up to the mark and draw the line and lay down the law, and here you are Justin, God bless you. Middle East next?
 
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Justinslow

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They were just standing around with blank eyes waiting for some concerned citizen to step up to the mark and draw the line and lay down the law, and here you are Justin, God bless you. Middle East next?
Probably could do a better job than some of those in power over last 20 years........
 

shouldbeinbed

Rollin' along
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Manchester way
This is what you said and you are questioning whether the rider needed lights in the first place. What I am saying is how do you know what the light conditions were like in this part of Suffolk at that time? How far had the guy ridden in even darker conditions before I passed him?
This morning was a lot brighter at the same time.
You then introduced bright sunlight as a red herring and if you can quote where I question the need for lights, crack on. I even state that Mr and all my felow cyclists were lit and vizzed. I often post into what light threads. You seem to be wrongly extrapolating my wondering on your attitude as some sort of anti light opinion.

At the time you posted, 150 odd miles north also on a wet morning I wouldn't have particularly batted an eyelid at a ninja "idiot" let alone come rushing to tell people about it.

Each to their own tho.
 
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Justinslow

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You then introduced bright sunlight as a red herring and if you can quote where I question the need for lights, crack on. I even state that Mr and all my felow cyclists were lit and vizzed. I often post into what light threads. You seem to be wrongly extrapolating my wondering on your attitude as some sort of anti light opinion.

At the time you posted, 150 odd miles north also on a wet morning I wouldn't have particularly batted an eyelid at a ninja "idiot" let alone come rushing to tell people about it.

Each to their own tho.
Yep each to their own, if you feel it's a waste of space thread- walk/ride on by..........
 
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Justinslow

Justinslow

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They were just standing around with blank eyes waiting for some concerned citizen to step up to the mark and draw the line and lay down the law, and here you are Justin, God bless you. Middle East next?
I also think you need to look at some of your own threads, rearrange these words- kettle, pot, black, the, calling.
 
You said that before. I asked you which threads and you couldn't answer. If you take issue with my posts then cite the post, stop making stuff up.
 

Shed_head

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East Sussex
I wouldn't wear high viz unless I am commuting, I always run lights though as my bike is Black as is a lot of my gear. Better to be seen then dead!
Some seriously funny replies on this thread though :smile:
 
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