Idiots stopping in ASL boxes.

[newts]

no it doesn’t . My lid is where the camera is, it’s way in front of the rear wheel. I had my foot down, pushing towards the line, to make sure the driver in the box had spotted me, which I wouldn’t have needed to, if he hadn’t been in the box.

Even if your head is over the front axle (i suspect it's in its normal posterior position), your back wheel is still over the line

 

[Origamist]

This thread reminds me of 'The Hunting of the Snark (An Agony in 8 Fits)' - unalloyed nonsense with a hidden meaning that continues to escape me...

His intimate friends called him "Candle-ends,"

⁠And his enemies "Toasted-cheese."

 

[Racing roadkill]

As you can see, I timed my move perfectly. This is where I looked up, clocked the light phase ( amber and red) . Then I started to move just as the light went to green.

 

[dodgy]

I do know the difference between Crew and Crewe, because I’m not illiterate.

Lol adenoidal boy. ‘Ysl’ 😂🤔

 

[Racing roadkill]

Even if your head is over the front axle (i suspect it's in its normal posterior position), your back wheel is still over the line

You’re wrong, it really wasn’t.

 

[dodgy]

What the flying fig has the cost of the bike got to do with anything? I am right, no matter the cost of the bike.

Because it’s funny and I like to take the piss out of easy targets.

i wonder if camera cyclists get into more conflicts than non cammers. Seems that way.

 

[Slick]

Not that anyone cares at this point but Asl invaders are a total pain in the erse and I am quite convinced almost nobody knows how to use them.

How many times have you been asked by a driving non cyclist why should cyclists get to the front of the que only for all the card to have to go to the huge hassle of overtaking again?

 

[Dave Davenport]

I've got to admit, that in the past I've taken issue with RR and on occasion had a bit of a dig, but I honestly think he's got a problem of some sort and wonder if it wouldn't be best if everyone just chuckled and ignored it when he posts daft stuff like this, it's not like he's ever going to take any notice of a differing opinion.

 

[dodgy]

Being serious for a bit, there is no doubt misunderstanding of what YSLs ASLs are for. I see cars moving into them often [not because of heavy traffic].

 

[Racing roadkill]

Why did you stop on green though.
You stopped, so you've said, with your rear wheel behind the line.

Ironically, to do a quick check for blatant RLJs from the sides ( it happens a lot ). It’s a momentary track stand type stop, I do it a lot at that junction.

But you arrived at the lights with perfect timing, allowing you to not have to stop.

It’s a track stand / pause rather than a full dismount (both feet down) stop.

 

[Racing roadkill]

Being serious for a bit, there is no doubt misunderstanding of what YSLs ASLs are for. I see cars moving into them often [not because of heavy traffic].

Quite right.

 

[figbat]

Please explain this. In the frame below we can see the car’s number plate, so your camera is in front of the car. Ergo your helmet and by extension your head is in front of the car. Assuming you ride a conventional (12 grand) bike in a conventional position this would put your front wheel some way further up the road, meaning that all of you and a good, if not total, portion of your bike is in front of the car. As we know, the car is stopped at the ASL (we can just see the corner of it by the car’s bumper), ergo you and your bike are past the ASL.

Oh, one final thing (channeling Columbo). Can you see what colour traffic light is lit?

 

[winjim]

I don't know why we're even arguing. The fact is he's admitted it.

I had to position with my rear wheel just inside the box ( behind the line ) because I needed the ( illegally) positioned driver to see I was there. My rear wheel was still behind the line.

And in the same way that

Ignorance of the facts of the ASL rules is common, but no excuse.

One vehicle being allegedly illegally positioned is no excuse to take up an illegal position oneself. The position of the car was apparent from way back so there was no reason to get in front of it and op wasn't forced into that position.

 

[Drago]

The worst thing about ASL's is the access. In this case it's terrible, which makes speeding along the door zone (or the death zone in American parlance) a dicey proposition. To do so at that speed while staring steadfastly dead ahead is not something I'd recommend for anyone who wants to avoid an ambulance.

 

[winjim]

The worst thing about ASL's is the access. In this case it's terrible, which makes speeding along the door zone (or the death zone in American parlance) a dicey proposition. To do so at that speed while staring steadfastly dead ahead is not something I'd recommend for anyone who wants to avoid an ambulance.

I tend to mainly ignore them. If I can filter down to the front and slot into one then so be it, but I don't make them a target or anything. Personally I don't really like being at the front and my usual spot is to slot in behind the first car, middle of the lane if I can, eye contact and a smile at the driver behind, signal if required. That way I can see the lights, I can observe the behaviour of the driver in front who may be distracted by the lights and goings-on at the junction, and I can control the driver behind me. It's how I feel safest.