Imagine a world where motorists had to maintain the roads they used.

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Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
Ask them why they're paying Keir's (the company, not the other twit) shareholders if cash is so tight? They harrumph and cough a lot when I ask but never trot out a straight answer.

Because it is still cheaper than doing it themselves.

Whether their priorities are right regarding which work needs doing first is another question entirely. But I would expect councils to be outsourcing the work to specialist companies.
 

presta

Legendary Member
The taxation of motor vehicles needs a top down change, IMHO pay per mile is the only sensible and fair option, but I'd go further and add in a multiplier for vehicle weight, or some sort of damage / wear to roads caused scoring. You'd then encourage manufactures to produce lighter and more efficient vehicles that are kinder to the roads.

It won't happen though. People take cheap motoring for granted, and feel entitled to it, so there'll be riots if anyone tries to change that.
 

Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Best to go for a golden oldie.

Vehicles exempt from vehicle tax​

If your vehicle was built before 1 January 1985, you can stop paying vehicle tax from 1 April 2025.

Not necessary to go back that far. Lower emission vehicles were exempt from VED for many years and carry than exemption on. My 2013 Fiesta is exempt.
Think its time they came up with a tax on a vehicles weight given the road damage that is no doubt being caused by EVs
eg A Peugeot 208EV is around a third heavier that its petrol equivalent.
 

Pblakeney

Well-Known Member
It won't happen though. People take cheap motoring for granted, and feel entitled to it, so there'll be riots if anyone tries to change that.

It is inevitable with the decline of ICE cars. The loss of revenue (both VED and fuel duty) will have to be replaced somehow.
 

grldtnr

Veteran
You're wrong, they are aware and have no objection.

Please can you ensure your testicle is properly packaged in ice in a sealed container before posting to me.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.
Ah, no I won't be voluntary removing my left tested, as I was not placing it in a bet, I was inferring the OP ought to do so.
Any case Rubes, why would you want my shrivelled left plum, it's not much use to me, doubtless absolutely useless to you, but he- ho, people to collect all manner of worthless 'junk'.
Balls included.
 

Paulus

Started young, and still going.
Location
Barnet,
It won't happen though. People take cheap motoring for granted, and feel entitled to it, so there'll be riots if anyone tries to change that.

The popular press and some motoring organisations would be calling it a war on motorists.
 

TheDoctor

Noble and true, with a heart of steel
Moderator
Location
The TerrorVortex
Not necessary to go back that far. Lower emission vehicles were exempt from VED for many years and carry than exemption on. My 2013 Fiesta is exempt.
Think its time they came up with a tax on a vehicles weight given the road damage that is no doubt being caused by EVs
eg A Peugeot 208EV is around a third heavier that its petrol equivalent.

I think the zero rate of VED has ended, and you'll need to pay £20 a year henceforth.
I'm in the same boat with my 308 hdi.
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
I doubt there are many cyclists who don't pay road tax for their cars though.

But there are a few (hello!) who pay no VED because they have no car. Fortunately, the road network is funded by general taxation.
 
Ah, no I won't be voluntary removing my left tested, as I was not placing it in a bet, I was inferring the OP ought to do so.
Any case Rubes, why would you want my shrivelled left plum, it's not much use to me, doubtless absolutely useless to you, but he- ho, people to collect all manner of worthless 'junk'.
Balls included.
I read it as you placing the bet on RT's left appendage so when are you visiting him to sort out the wager payment? I suspect if you offer to do so he will let you off the bet.
 

Electric_Andy

Heavy Metal Fan
Location
Plymouth
Easier to keep roads clear as lorries etc do a good job of clipping the hedges back, plus you can get a tractor and hedge trimmer in to cut it back tight. As usual, councils are not that fussed about pedestrian and cycle paths because they don't seem to look beyond their noses. A chap I watch on YT clears paths that have clearly not been done for years
 

Pblakeney

Well-Known Member
So has anyone asked why the cycle path has become so overgrown? I mean is it possibly linked to the low level of use?

Some busy cycle paths in my are are becoming so overgrown that they will become unusable.
Wonder what will be said if the cyclists take to the roads as a consequence.
 
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