Increase in seizures of illegal ebikes

[ebikeerwidnes]

Why not start with the simple stuff. Riding, often at speed, on the pavements. No lights fitted, are they mechanically safe to be on the road. The same requirements that any cycle would have to comply with to be on the roads.

If, as Drago says, they start off with "has it got a valid plate on it"

then they could stop someone - me for example - on the basis that they have reason to suspect it is has a motor and is not legal
they could say "show me the plate" and I would

a quick check for a throttle - and they let you go

 

[Electric_Andy]

A business model based on law breaking?

I live probably too rurally to consider such services but people seemed to manage before these illegal bike based delivery services became so widespread, how? Few seem to be arguing it's an unreasonable law so maybe those dependent businesses need to find a legal business model.

It's boomed because it was invented for cycles to deliver in cities. Now illegal ebikes can deliver wider, with less outlay than running something powered and legal. The companies and individuals should be held to account. But no-one cares because they get their food delivered

 

[classic33]

It's boomed because it was invented for cycles to deliver in cities. Now illegal ebikes can deliver wider, with less outlay than running something powered and legal. The companies and individuals should be held to account. But no-one cares because they get their food delivered

Illegal bikes have just opened another way of delivery due to the fact that those with the power to do anything did nothing when they should have done.

Until someone is hurt, maybe killed by a delivery rider on an illegal electric bike, there'll be little done. Crushing them is one thing, but they're replaced almost as quick. With the rider out on the road in next to no time.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Illegal bikes have just opened another way of delivery due to the fact that those with the power to do anything did nothing when they should have done.

Until someone is hurt, maybe killed by a delivery rider on an illegal electric bike, there'll be little done. Crushing them is one thing, but they're replaced almost as quick. With the rider out on the road in next to no time.

The first bit covers a lot from the last decade or so (trying to keep it non political!)

too much has changed but been allowed to slide with no action

ebike are just a minor part of it
I even saw a food place just before that was advertising food delivered by e-scooter
which is automatically illegal on the road

 

[Dogtrousers]

But no-one cares because they get their food delivered

Full disclosure - there's a really nice genuine Italian pizza place near to where I live. Unfortunately it's just outside what I would consider to be takeaway walking distance so I get my pizzas delivered from there. I've never checked up on the kind of bike that they use.

 

[classic33]

The first bit covers a lot from the last decade or so (trying to keep it non political!)

too much has changed but been allowed to slide with no action

ebike are just a minor part of it
I even saw a food place just before that was advertising food delivered by e-scooter
which is automatically illegal on the road

As a society, we're just getting lazier. Own opinion here, nowt else.

If there's an easier way of doing things, we tend to find it. That includes getting someone else to deliver what we eat. Even when the shop is a five minute walk away.
The delivery companies have jumped in to that gap. So fewer get their own, meaning more deliveries.

 

[Drago]

Lance O'Classic is correct.

What never ceases to astonish me is the amount of effort people put into being lazy.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Full disclosure - there's a really nice genuine Italian pizza place near to where I live. Unfortunately it's just outside what I would consider to be takeaway walking distance so I get my pizzas delivered from there. I've never checked up on the kind of bike that they use.

That's terrible - I have reported you to The Authorities and you will be arrested imminently

I never order food for delivery!!

mind you - this is because hate waiting and get very stressed about it so I am better off just getting it myself

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Full disclosure - there's a really nice genuine Italian pizza place near to where I live. Unfortunately it's just outside what I would consider to be takeaway walking distance so I get my pizzas delivered from there. I've never checked up on the kind of bike that they use.

You mean you do not grow your own pizza in the allotment?

 

[raleighnut]

You mean you do not grow your own pizza in the allotment?

There's no room inbetween the spaghetti trees.

 

[Electric_Andy]

Lance O'Classic is correct.

What never ceases to astonish me is the amount of effort people put into being lazy.

It's not always laziness. If it were, you could say anyone who does their shopping in a car is lazy because they could do it on foot

 

[classic33]

It's not always laziness. If it were, you could say anyone who does their shopping in a car is lazy because they could do it on foot

Would less than 2,000 feet each way count? Or 300 foot each way, plus the waiting time.
There was a regular delivery to the town hall from 300 foot away.

 

[Drago]

It's not always laziness. If it were, you could say anyone who does their shopping in a car is lazy because they could do it on foot

Carrying 6 bags of groceries probably isnt reasonable. Use a car, taxi,or home delivery service. Even a meathead lime me woukd struggle to walk back with a mo ths shopping in my hands.

Conversely, diving half a mile for a pint of milk is by no measure reasonable in this context and is bone idle laziness, plain and ssimpleq

Hkwever, if someone can reasonably do something on foot, but habitually choose to use a car instead they are lazy. That's pretty much the definition.

 

[Dogtrousers]

It's not always laziness. If it were, you could say anyone who does their shopping in a car is lazy because they could do it on foot

I don't do my shopping in a car anymore.

I get it delivered instead. This means I don't have to walk down to the car and walk round the shops. So exhausting.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

I don't do my shopping in a car anymore.

I get it delivered instead. This means I don't have to walk down to the car and walk round the shops. So exhausting.

Do you leave the door open, so they can deliver it to your couch?