Is a full road bike quicker ?

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Greenbank

Über Member
jimboalee said:
May 29, 2009: Giro d'Italia: Avellino - Vesuvio (162 km):
1 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Cervelo Test Team 04:33:23

Slide rule please:biggrin:

162/(4+(33/60)+(23/3600)) = 35.55kph.

[EDIT] Your new figures (202km in 4:30:07 = 44.87kph = 27.88mph).

That's not particularly fast though, in a peloton they maintain a much faster speed. Looking at the Tour de France:

The fastest stage in line was the 1999 stage Laval-Blois (194.5 km), won by Mario Cipollini at an average speed of 50.355 km/h (31.289mph)

The average speed of the winner of the 2005 TdF (Lance) over the whole 3607km (including time trials) was 41.654kph. 25.883mph.
 

Sittingduck

Legendary Member
Location
Somewhere flat
Downward said:
How much does one spend on a new Road bike when going from a Hybrid ?

We'll require full access to your financial records in order to diagnose the correct answer :angry:
 

Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
Greenbank said:
162/(4+(33/60)+(23/3600)) = 35.55kph.

[EDIT] Your new figures (202km in 4:30:07 = 44.87kph = 27.88mph).

That's not particularly fast though, in a peloton they maintain a much faster speed. Looking at the Tour de France:

The fastest stage in line was the 1999 stage Laval-Blois (194.5 km), won by Mario Cipollini at an average speed of 50.355 km/h (31.289mph)

The average speed of the winner of the 2005 TdF (Lance) over the whole 3607km (including time trials) was 41.654kph. 25.883mph.

yeah but he's got a really good bike though init
 

kool4caats

Well-Known Member
Hey everyone.. this is my first post.

I love reading about others' experiences on this forum. I've just recently bought a hybrid. It's a Rigdeback Tempest. I didn't opt for a race bike because I thought that I might want to ride along tracks and stuff so wanted something that would handle that. Now I'm finding that I pretty much just stick to the roads. Although it's a hybrid, I'm impressed with this bike, I can get some decent speed on it at times.

My commute to work is 12 miles in each direction, and I've been doing it a month so far, working up to do it doing a full 5 day week, which I might manage next week, hopefully! I haven't got a computer yet, but my times for that distance range between 40 minutes and an hour - 12 to 18mph average - usually 45 to 50 mins though. I estimated it would take me an hour before trying it, so I'm pleasantly surprised. There are quite a few sets of lights though, which can take a painfully long time to sequence. And there have been some very vicious headwinds (15mph or so). Considering I've done minimal exercise over the last 2 years though, I'm quite pleased with myself. I find I start the journey wondering why I'm doing this (why didn't I take the car today), and as I progress I get more agressive, and loving it.

I feel that soon I will probably want to progress to a road bike. I'll probably keep the hybrid as well though, as long as I can find somewhere to store them both. I just wonder how much faster it will be? I think the riding position would certainly help with the head winds.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Greenbank said:
162/(4+(33/60)+(23/3600)) = 35.55kph.

[EDIT] Your new figures (202km in 4:30:07 = 44.87kph = 27.88mph).

That's not particularly fast though, in a peloton they maintain a much faster speed. Looking at the Tour de France:

The fastest stage in line was the 1999 stage Laval-Blois (194.5 km), won by Mario Cipollini at an average speed of 50.355 km/h (31.289mph)

The average speed of the winner of the 2005 TdF (Lance) over the whole 3607km (including time trials) was 41.654kph. 25.883mph.

An overweight half-trained amatuer should be able to accomplish 2/3 of the pro's speeds over similar distances.

In 1976, I could ride at 2/3 of Lucien's speed, 2/3 x 21.5 = 14.4 ; and in 2006, I could ride at 2/3 of Oscar's speed. 2/3 x 25.3 = 16.9

In 1976 I rode a Peugeot 531 PX10LE, and in 2006, I rode an SWorks.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
1937 was the first year a Brit was in the Tour de France. Bill Burl and Charlie Holland.

Charlie rode a bike which weighed about 22.5 - 23lb and the winning speed was 31.8 kmh, or 19.75 mph.

Now I'm considering myself on my Dawes Giro 500, riding most of the stage in a pace-line, saving my best for the run into the finish.

My uncle rode for the RAF in the thirties, and rode against Charlie.
Charlie lived in Brum in the seventies and I made a trip to Sutton Park to see the guy in the flesh.
 

HJ

Cycling in Scotland
Location
Auld Reekie
Today I rode from Edinburgh to St Andrew's, I was really surprised by just how many expensive road bike I overtook. Coming down the Cleash Hills I managed to pass every bike I came across including light weight carbon road bike ridden but club riders, down on the drops. Not only was I riding a hybrid, but I was also carrying a pannier. It is not the bike which make you fast, it is the legs, and I am not even that fast...
 
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J4CKO

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HJ said:
Today I rode from Edinburgh to St Andrew's, I was really surprised by just how many expensive road bike I overtook. Coming down the Cleash Hills I managed to pass every bike I came across including light weight carbon road bike ridden but club riders, down on the drops. Not only was I riding a hybrid, but I was also carrying a pannier. It is not the bike which make you fast, it is the legs, and I am not even that fast...


Its all part of an equation that involves lots of factors but you are right in saying the rider is the biggest factor, however, the same rider on different bikes will travel faster or slower depending on the hardware sat beneath them, I noticed a difference between my Cannondale Bad Boy hybrid and the borrowed Felt f65 slinky road bike, it isnt night and day difference but its there, the waters were muddied by having no speedo and a stiff headwind, I would imagine its perhaps worth ten percent on my commute.

At the end of the day its all incremental changes and no matter how quick you think you are, there is always someone quicker just waiting to spoil your day so its not worth getting too pleased with yourself with your speed, I was doing this other week after a string of scalps, then got pounced on by a roadie who overtook, I made him work for his scalp but fair play, the lad was younger, fitter and quicker than me.

I think a lot of commuters do end up faster than some fully clad roadies just for the fact they cycle every day wheras a proportion of roadies are weekend only for various reasons.
 

jig-sore

Formerly the anorak
Location
Rugby
well i have to say my road bike feels more nimble and certainly accelerates faster,
the hybrid feels much bigger and a bit chunky, but it does soak up the bumps better thanks to it's wider tyres
my average times on both bikes are much the same, so is one quicker than the other.... i don't think so
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
the anorak said:
well i have to say my road bike feels more nimble and certainly accelerates faster,
the hybrid feels much bigger and a bit chunky, but it does soak up the bumps better thanks to it's wider tyres
my average times on both bikes are much the same, so is one quicker than the other.... i don't think so

Are your average times on the flat or up a big long hill?
 
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