Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
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- Cwmbach, South Wales
It's the Gubmint innit? Rich people, yeah....
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Perhaps this is actually true, and the disrespect for the law created by breaking the speed limit by 1mph has led directly to the riots of the last few days.
It could be quite a persuasive argument for fitting pedal reflectors
SportMonkey
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I'd suggest that the law in some respects could be deemed the cause. Detention without proof, do you stand by that AFS? It's the law, it's not ethical, it's not moral and it sure as hell isn't good for our society. We have laws that cause community segregation, designed to cause splits based on creed or religion. You cannot argue that our law hasn't gone some way to causing this. Why should a youth have respect for something that values them by their birth or heritage.
You really need to drop your "the law is a panacea and we shall abide" view, it turns you into a sheep [sic]. The law is a set of rules, ignoring, bending, breaking or even protesting ones that are not right is a good thing.
You really need to drop your "the law is a panacea and we shall abide" view, it turns you into a sheep [sic]. The law is a set of rules, ignoring, bending, breaking or even protesting ones that are not right is a good thing.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
I have no issue with legal protest against laws.
Your views of the law are very different to mine if you think it should not be respected by the youth. You sound as if you agree with the jolly japery the kids are involved in.
SportMonkey
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It's not you're either with us or against us though. No one should respect a law that will imprison someone without proof. That way lies terror. Need I remind you of recent European history where the Russians used this technique to keep other countries in fear and stop uprisals.
Are you saying you respect people for racism? That is what the last government asked of us, to respect them and the police for laws designed to target ethnic groups. So to follow your logic, if you think that law should be respected by youth you are indeed a racist.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
I was wondering when this topic would be brought up. If you truely believe that the last government was racist then you are not someone I want to waste bytes on.
SportMonkey
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You'd need to ask Admin if it's bytes or words.
I don't truly believe they were racist, you take things at face value though. Words aren't just words, they hold meaning. There is pages of discussion on the laws bought in debating if they were racist, by people who actually know what they are talking about not just idiots guffing off on an internet forum. Really, really read what I've said mate.
Also, do you not agree that if a section of society see a law enacted, especially a minority, which they deem to oppress them then they may get upset about it. It's not the cause of this, and you know what no one really protested it, but people did get upset. And before you say about majority rule, the majority would bring back the death sentence, 33% of people would see live rounds used on the looters. Numbers mean nothing when the people sticking their hands up do not know what they are truly saying or what the consequences for their actions are. On consequences, our governments past present and future all have to take the consequences of both correct assertions before a law is enacted and incorrect assertions.
Cycling Naturalist
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- Llangollen
I should give it up AFS. They are ganging up on you.
They tend to be the type of people who wanted to be bullies at school, but were too small and spotty.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
I've never been ond to take the path of least resistanceThey tend to be the type of people who wanted to be bullies at school, but were too small and spotty.
Is it a good thing for a motorist to break the speed limit because he personally thinks it is too low?
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
So it must be ok to steel if you think something is two expensive
Cush
Veteran
- Location
- North Cumbria but still a Geordie
Yes so do I and dear old Willy Whitelaw and his short sharp treatment that was going to cure thugery and make sure the bad boys and girls did not want another dose of it, never worked because there was nothing to follow it and it just made the thugs fitt. And then the softly softly approach came, it never worked because that's what it was softly softy.
Like all the governments that have been in power since I was born (1943) I dont know the answer either but I know what I want. I want protection by a National police controlled by an elected government and if that means fetching Gulags in to the country so be it. What I dont want is to have to do is rely on private police forces and vigilanties for protection.
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User482
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I must confess, I did cut across a couple of metres of pavement on my cycle home. I'm expecting to be tear-gassed at any moment.
They tend to be the type of people who wanted to be bullies at school, but were too small and spotty.
Yes well, safety in numbers. Next thing you know they will be taking to the streets and rioting.......................................oh?? Wait a minute.
Cycling Naturalist
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