I've started running (any tips or advice most welcome)

[mudsticks]

Good morning,

I am not convinced by the running shoe industry, too much of smacks of if you don't have at least Ultegra cycling won't be fun. :-)

There are fashions, and currently there is a craze for barefoot running and shoes that are so thin that they are intended to very close to barefoot.

I definitely avoid gait analysis and "you run this way so you need this type of shoe to correct your pronation", these shoes will have padding and support to alter the way that you run, as this is "necessary".

The same people selling you heavily padded shoe will also sell you a "barefoot shoe"!

And of course there is a lot of what you learnt n years ago is wrong and you must change, landing on your heal is now a no go, whereas 40 years ago it was the only way to run.

So I am stuck in the past and run in basic trainers that have a small amount of cushioning but are not sold as running shoes and I have never had a problem, they are fine for around about 2-3 months, 3-4 miles thrice a week.

Typically they are in the £20-£30 range from Sports Direct, I suspect that I will be told that they are the Muddy Foxes of the foot-ware world.

Shoe Shaped Objects - SSO. :-)

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Bye

Ian

Yup there can be plenty of hype.

You have to find something that fits.
Depends on the surface too.

I wear non membrane trail running shoes, for hiking, biking, and now off road running too. Usually innov8 - who have good ethics re manufacturing.

Sure super cheap shoes can be OK, if you can find a pair that suits your feet. but they don't last so long - midsole breaks down faster, which is just wasteful of materials imo

I've known a few people get tendon problems with zero drop / barefoot runners, takes a while to get used to it. .

Off road is definitely more fun if you can find somewhere to do it.. It engages the brain, as well as all the whole leg and foot anatomy, in the exercise.

I think like all these things you've got to go steadily at it, especially if you're overweight, and or not in the first flush of youth.

 

[IanSmithCSE]

Good morning,

I've just dug up the box from some Aldi Premium Running shoes from probably 5-6 years ago.

They were brilliant, I suspect that they were production overruns from a premium brand.

The box now holds Battlestar Galactica videos.


Although they didn't make much difference to the actual run. they definitely did more miles/were in better condition after the same number of miles as the Sports Direct shoes.

They were also slightly supportive with a raised and reinforced arch, that I did like, just not enough to make it a required feature.

Unfortunately Aldi don't seem to be selling anything similar anymore, no serious runner would buy from Aldi and they were too expensive/too specialised for the then Aldi customer base.

A lot of the Aldi Crane stuff seems to have gone down in quality in the same way over the years as the company expanded in the UK, whether this is because of a need for higher margins, suppliers not having stock that they need to clear so let's stick a Crane label on it and it will all be gone or Aldi have worked out what will not sell very quickly.

Their current trainers seem to be the cheapest moulded plastic ones and I got through 4 pairs of walking shoes in a year before accepting that things had moved on.

There is a review here https://outdoorsmagic.com/article/aldis-new-specialbuys-running-gear/

To be fair to the walking shoes everything failed at pretty much the same time, the soles were worn out, the front of the sole became unglued from the body and the internal padding was crushed, so it was a well balanced design.

Bye

Ian

 

[Cathryn]

My advise is to take it very easy at first, your cycling lungs may make it easy but your running legs won’t be ready and you can very easily injure yourself by doing too much too soon.

This is excellent advice. I LOVE running, I can never decide which sport I prefer but running is easier to fit into daily life. But as Milkfloat said, DO take it slowly even if you feel awesome. Your cardiovascular system gets stronger quite quickly. Your muscular-skeletal system takes longer, so you'll feel like you can go further/faster but your body can't necessarily support the additional strain. Better to take it slowly and NOT get injured. I'd suggest a structured Couch-to-5k programme. You might think it's too easy but it'll stop you getting hurt.

And then, when life gets back to normal, the BEST thing you can do is parkrun!

 

[fossyant]

All I'd say, is, because you are fit don't go and overdo it. I wrecked my knee by running too far at first. Build it up, don't spend too long until your body get's used to the impacts.

 

[matticus]

And of course there is a lot of what you learnt n years ago is wrong and you must change, landing on your heal is now a no go,

only in the pedantry thread :P

 

[Mines_a_pint]

wearing the correct shoes (foot pronation) definitely make a difference especially when the miles start increasing As already said build the miles up gradually to avoid shin splints etc and always look at the surface ahead to avoid trips and stumbles, seen many runners injured (and taking months to fully recover) over the years by tripping up.

 

[IanSmithCSE]

Good morning,

only in the pedantry thread :P

You have lost me, as I read your post there is something wrong the text you set to bold.

I have looked at it, twice, started up Word for a spell check and just can't see it.

I would have got it if you were tongue outing the sentence starting with And. :-)

Bye

Ian

 

[matticus]

I would have got it if you were tongue outing the sentence starting with And. :-)

Drat - I missed that horrendous error! No, what caught my eye was "heal" instead of "heel".

But this isn't (yet) a pedantry thread, so forget I said anything :-)

 

[mudsticks]

Good morning,


You have lost me, as I read your post there is something wrong the text you set to bold.

I have looked at it, twice, started up Word for a spell check and just can't see it.

I would have got it if you were tongue outing the sentence starting with And. :-)

Bye

Ian

heal / heel

Tsk, pedants they're everywhere..

 

[matticus]

I think shoe sceptics take things too far: surely it's accepted that some poor folks need orthotics just to *walk* pain-free?
Running is much more stressful on our bodies, so it seems feasible that many bodies are sufficiently imperfect that they need some assistance/correction/etc to run with minimal damage.

(I firmly believe that cycling is the better exercise long-term, because it does so much less harm to most bodies! Happy to disagree with the running evangelists on that one though. For now ... :P )

 

[newfhouse]

Good morning,


You have lost me, as I read your post there is something wrong the text you set to bold.

I have looked at it, twice, started up Word for a spell check and just can't see it.

I would have got it if you were tongue outing the sentence starting with And. :-)

Bye

Ian

“Tongue outing” as a compound verb, with nary an hyphen, is unforgivable.

 

[mudsticks]

I think shoe sceptics take things too far: surely it's accepted that some poor folks need orthotics just to *walk* pain-free?
Running is much more stressful on our bodies, so it seems feasible that many bodies are sufficiently imperfect that they need some assistance/correction/etc to run with minimal damage.

(I firmly believe that cycling is the better exercise long-term, because it does so much less harm to most bodies! Happy to disagree with the running evangelists on that one though. For now ... :P )

I think a combination of lots of things, but not to excess is best.

Cycling can be good for cardiovascular, but doesn't do so much for your bone density, or proprioception.

Which running does - running is faster at building cardiovascular / aerobic fitness.

Neither really does so much for flexibility and strength - but yoga does both of those.

Depends a lot on age, previous exercise and fitness history, and or injuries too.

But anything is better than nothing.

And doing something you enjoy is vital.

 

[Ludwig]

It is a good idea to do some quality interval speed work and interval training and to run on grass, forest trail, sandy beaches etc and its nice to do some track sessions and sharpens you io no end. I It is great to find a running group or club and people of a similar standard. It is worth doing some gym work for strength and flexibility. I used to do lots of races and were cheap to do back then. I think you have the park runs now and can do time trials etc as well as all the races of every kind and distance. I did quite a lot if track races and even 800m and 1500m and 5000m and you are going very fast compared to the typical road races and is very good for getting speed into your running. You can run up mouintains, around cities beaches, along rivers and canals as is a great way to get to know an area.
If you look at the top runners they have a very fluid, economical and efficient technique and runming action almost like they are floating effortlessly along like the top pro bike riders and it a good idea to develop a good running style.
It is important to enjoy it, don't get too obsessed and set a few targets et

 

[Dayvo]

“Tongue outing” as a compound verb, with nary an hyphen, is unforgivable.

’An hyphen’ is unhygenic, spelling-wise.
😉

 

[Mo1959]

Just hope you don't have too many runs like the one I've just had. What a bleeding slog. My old damaged legs were so sore, stiff and lifeless I was working at threshold heart rate most of the way just to keep moving ..............and yet, it still gives me a buzz when I finished so not all bad.