Jeremy Vine meets a gangster

[RoubaixCube]

I'll give you a piece of advice. If, through lack of foresight, lack of attention or plain lack of intelligence you find yourself in a confrontation that you have not designedly brought about, the thing to do is to win. Vine lost.

Vine had the last laugh.... He caught it all on camera -- Depending if the police are as incompetent as they sound, he can still win unless he choose not to pursue her and press charges.

 

[doog]

I'll give you a piece of advice. If, through lack of foresight, lack of attention or plain lack of intelligence you find yourself in a confrontation that you have not designedly brought about, the thing to do is to win. Vine lost.

Thanks..my egg sucking isn't going that well .

 

[glenn forger]

Vine had the last laugh.... He caught it all on camera -- Depending if the police are as incompetent as they sound, he can still win unless he choose not to pursue her and press charges.

Exactly. So entitled was this driver that she continued with threats after she noticed the camera. It's quite delicious schadenfreude.

 

[Hitchington]

Vine had the last laugh.....

 

[Dogtrousers]

indeed. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to ride down to Balham. If tooted I will respond with a smile.

You could go via Tooting.

 

[Blue Hills]

Seems pretty typical of this sort of video. Not sure why he pulls alongside at the end, might as well stay back and let her drive off.

I thought he showed quite remarkable self control. I'm not recommending it (in fact I know it can escalate things quite dramatically and you risk losing the moral high ground) but i would have almost certainly fired a few choice words back at her.

 

[dellzeqq]

Vine had the last laugh.... He caught it all on camera -- Depending if the police are as incompetent as they sound, he can still win unless he choose not to pursue her and press charges.

If the police pursue it she'll get a small fine. He, on the other hand, stood there stammering and got himself pushed around by somebody a foot shorter than him. I'd have thought his friends and family are looking at their toes in embarrassment.

And the reason is....he had no plan. No thought about how he was going to play it. He stood his ground, but had no clue what to do when the young woman took him to task. That's marginally more pathetic than his showing on Strictly.

The really sad thing about this is it plays to the audience within cycling that sees itself as the victim. Cyclists aren't victims. They're the new nobility of the streets. They swan around, heedless of jams, taking in the scenery, getting to their destinations more quickly than anybody else, revelling in their own fitness, living longer, healthier lives than the car-bound masses around them. Cyclists have become the chosen, the keepers of virtue, the flaneurs of the modern age. Were Baudelaire alive today he'd be awestruck by the ease with which our tyres, wheels, frames and saddles carry us vast distances without apparent effort. We're the Tops, the Colosseum and the Wax Museum of town and country.

Lets have that as our chosen narrative, not this bleating about people passing too close, or parping their horns. If Mr. Vine is so convinced that cycling is dangerous, why does he continue?

 

[srw]

Exactly. So entitled was this driver that she continued with threats after she noticed the camera. It's quite delicious schadenfreude.

Rather proves it wasn't a real threat, doesn't it? If it was real she wouldn't have bothered carrying on, she'd have destroyed the evidence PDQ.

 

[outlash]

The really sad thing about this is it plays to the audience within cycling that sees itself as the victim. Cyclists aren't victims.

This. But it won't stop the OP carrying on with their 'crusade'.

 

[Blue Hills]

If the police pursue it she'll get a small fine. He, on the other hand, stood there stammering and got himself pushed around by somebody a foot shorter than him. I'd have thought his friends and family are looking at their toes in embarrassment.

And the reason is....he had no plan. No thought about how he was going to play it. He stood his ground, but had no clue what to do when the young woman took him to task. That's marginally more pathetic than his showing on Strictly.

The really sad thing about this is it plays to the audience within cycling that sees itself as the victim. Cyclists aren't victims. They're the new nobility of the streets. They swan around, heedless of jams, taking in the scenery, getting to their destinations more quickly than anybody else, revelling in their own fitness, living longer, healthier lives than the car-bound masses around them. Cyclists have become the chosen, the keepers of virtue, the flaneurs of the modern age. Were Baudelaire alive today he'd be awestruck by the ease with which our tyres, wheels, frames and saddles carry us vast distances without apparent effort. We're the Tops, the Colosseum and the Wax Museum of town and country.

Lets have that as our chosen narrative, not this bleating about people passing too close, or parping their horns. If Mr. Vine is so convinced that cycling is dangerous, why does he continue?

Got to disagree. I thought he played it well.
admirably so.
What do you think he should have done?

 

[dellzeqq]

Got to disagree. I thought he played it well.
admirably so.
What do you think he should have done?

a) not get in to the row in the first place - shrugged his shoulders, moved aside, caught her up at the junction and given her a cheery wave.
b) failing that (and it is a failure), got on the bike immediately she got out of the car and pedal off saying......... (well, I can't actually write what I would have said, because it's very, very rude - but it works).

 

[Tin Pot]

The problem is bullies like this driver.
Bullying isn't resolved by condoning bullying.
Bullying isn't resolved by giving in to bullies.

People who drive around angry and self righteous must be stopped before they hurt someone. They must be made aware of the law. And when they break the law, they must face justice.

If anyone here can't understand this *very simple* reality, they are part of the problem.

 

[glenn forger]

"Hey, cyclists, you should obey all road laws"

"Yep, okay. I'll take the lane here as it's a bit narro..."

"NOT THAT ONE"

 

[Blue Hills]

, got on the bike immediately she got out of the car and pedal off saying.. (well, I can't actually write what I would have said, because it's very, very rude - but it works).

Well being in the public eye, and with possible witnesses, jeremy is possibly rather limited in this area.
But, being myself usually less controlled then jeremy, and not being in the public eye, I'm genuinely interested in this.
Please tell -we are all adults and the mods will maybe allow. You can always insert starred euphemisms/definitions at key points if needed.

 

[dellzeqq]

Well being in the public eye, and with possible witnesses, jeremy is possibly rather limited in this area.
But, being myself usually less controlled then jeremy, and not being in the public eye, I'm genuinely interested in this.
Please tell -we are all adults and the mods will maybe allow. You can always insert starred euphemisms/definitions at key points if needed.

it would be a string of asterisks, and not very nice ones at that. If I see you around (on the Old Crocks Ride) then I'll let you know, but I don't fancy having one of my great failings (bad language) aired in quotes on CC